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Edmilson Instead of Renato

conceicao2010-05-12 05:11:57 +0000 #1
Any one besides me suspect that the inclusion of Edmilson is tied to

avoiding the kind of left back problem in this WC that Brasil got stuck

with at right back in '98 with Ze Carlos. If Roberto Carlos goes down

for any reason, is Gilberto really up to the job? Or could we see a

reversion to the '02 formation with Edmilson replacing Roberto Carlos

and Ze Roberto returning to his left back position from '98 albeit

without the full defensive responsibilities of 4-4-2. Zagallo would

not like this at all I am sure, but I trust Edmilson way more than

Gilberto at this point.
Ronni2010-05-12 05:18:38 +0000 #2
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Originally Posted by conceicao

Any one besides me suspect that the inclusion of Edmilson is tied to

avoiding the kind of left back problem in this WC that Brasil got stuck

with at right back in '98 with Ze Carlos. If Roberto Carlos goes down

for any reason, is Gilberto really up to the job? Or could we see a

reversion to the '02 formation with Edmilson replacing Roberto Carlos

and Ze Roberto returning to his left back position from '98 albeit

without the full defensive responsibilities of 4-4-2. Zagallo would

not like this at all I am sure, but I trust Edmilson way more than

Gilberto at this point.

nice to see you back in the forum, conceicao.

Really interesting your idea. But I don't think he would move Ze Roberto to a position he hasn't been performing neither in the selecao nor at Bayern Munich in the last times.

Sometimes I tend to think that there will be 3 players who will be free of strict tactical impositions in this WC: Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos and Cafu. The first one for obvious reasons. The others because I think that Parreira as a "safety first" coach doesn't consider both defensive (and fresh!) enough for the position, and therefore will have much more the two back midfield players Ze Roberto and Emerson supporting them. And he couldn't stand the pressure if he left any of both oldies out. Moreover there's no one really convincent for R.Carlos' position, and Cicinho is seen as having more or less the same defensive problems as Cafu.

Edmilson seems to be in a very good form. I could perfectly see him aside Emerson. And actually I find it even strange that Parreira relies on ZeRoberto's defensive abilities. But as clear as Parreira tries to present himself, I still think his way of thinking is a mistery for me.
conceicao2010-05-12 05:38:45 +0000 #3
Ronni, thanks for the response. The main reason I raised the Ze

Roberto to left back issue is that I recall that the '98 team originally included

Flavio Conceicao, a midfielder, as cover for Cafu with Ze Carlos only added after Flavio was injured. I guess what my question boils down to is that,

if rosters were still at 22 players as in '98, who would be dropped from the

Brasil squad just named? My instinct would be Gilberto or Ricardinho, and,

if Gilberto really rates this low, why not improvise if the necessity arose?

As for Ze Roberto starting in the midfield to begin with, the only advantages

I could come up with were (1) he and Roberto Carlos could transpose with

each other when the latter came far up field thus allowing the team to

"play left-handed" from the back and (2) he would never need to be subbed

for as he has the ability to contribute more either offensively or defensively depending on which team scores first. I certainly would never confuse him

with Mauro Silva - or Gilberto Silva from last time.
Ronni2010-05-12 05:39:52 +0000 #4
you may be right.

My theory however is that Parreira is using him as a defensive player for the start, but being able to switch him forward if they're one goal back still in the beginning, without needing any drastic substitutions, and eventually getting back to the basic formation. I have the impression that Parreira really relies on his striker power in order to get back quickly a bad result - if there's still no time pressure.

In such a situation there's no point on forwarding R.Carlos and Cafu that often, since the opponent team will be most probably nailed in the defense. And they are ok back there.

I ask myself if this isn't the 4-1-3-2 a part of the brazilian press and fans wanted (actually they wanted a sort of crazy 4-1-2-3) instead of Parreira's beloved 4-4-2.

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