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Catrin2012-01-18 21:16:25 +0000 #1
Frankly, I just want to sleep all night without my neck waking me up 3-4 times. It isn't bad, but enough to wake me. I am trying my very best to sleep on my back with a pillow under my knees, but as soon as I go to sleep I flop over on my side where I want to be...I just don't like to sleep on my back. Never have.

I don't want to take pain killers or sleeping aids, those things have just caused too many problems for others. It is also true that I've not slept all night since mid-late October when I injured myself. I did sleep all night the day after my injections last week, but that was all.

I am exploring natural sleep remedies. I unplug an hour or two before bed, I relax and read or do needlework. I try to complete my exercise for the day by 7 at the latest, and that is only once a week that I complete that late. I've really cut back on my coffee, but this is obviously related to my neck, not my early morning coffee. I am, however, still being careful to not drink any past late morning.

I would like to hear how others have dealt with something like this. I've been looking things up on the internet, so for nothing I have tried has seemed to make any difference

Biciclista2012-01-18 21:28:09 +0000 #2
boy, join the club. My sister has had liver damage so she is VERY in tune with natural remedies. She had me try KAVINACE, which is totally natural :

Kavinace combines two powerful ingredients that have shown to be effective at addressing symptoms of stress, anxiousness, irritability, hyperactivity, and sleep problems. It contains the GABA derivative, Phenibut which crosses the blood brain barrier more easily than GABA.

she takes it 30 minutes before bed and has sweet dreams every night.

I tried one pill. it kept me from sleeping and gave me tinnitus which is finally almost gone.
OakLeaf2012-01-18 21:27:07 +0000 #3
Do you have any support for your neck when you sleep on your back?

Sometimes when I'm traveling, I'll take a towel, fold it in half or thirds depending on how thick the terry is, then roll it into a cylinder to support my neck. It really helps, especially when the bed and/or pillows aren't very supportive. That, or a neck pillow, can be a good adjunct to a regular pillow for side sleeping, too.
WindingRoad2012-01-18 22:27:50 +0000 #4
Melatonin has worked well for me. It's cheap and natural. I also have Valerian Root capsules I take occasionally. They seem to be best for general stress and helping me 'calm' my mind and body.
Biciclista2012-01-18 23:11:55 +0000 #5
Melatonin for me was a similar disaster, but Valerian is nice, better than nothing.
emily_in_nc2012-01-18 23:02:46 +0000 #6
While you're healing, I wouldn't rule out something like Lunesta for the short-term. It's non-addicting, and I got some amazingly good sleep on it. Asked for the Rx after losing my dad in a car accident. I couldn't fall to sleep at all and would wake up frequently when I finally did. Lunesta was instant zzzzzz's. Not something you want to take forever, of course, but until you're healed, it might help without hurting.
goldfinch2012-01-19 00:03:59 +0000 #7
I generally am not afraid of experimenting even with pain killers and sleep aids as I do not seem to lean towards addictions. I suffer from sleep apnea. When I had to start using the CPAP machine I simply could not sleep with it. I tried ambien, which worked perfectly fine but made me concerned because of the risk of getting up and doing things in your sleep. I would only use it if I had a light sleeping spouse who would notice if I arose and started doing stuff.

I then went to benzodiazepines, really antianxiety drugs, specifically Atavan. As you mentioned, there is a dependency risk and you have to use care with dosing. It worked great for me. It got me through the few weeks it took to adapt to the machine. I got along with a very low dose. I had no problem whatsoever dropping the pills when I didn't need them anymore.

I know, not natural, but I wanted to give an alternative point of view. And natural isn't necessarily natural, these remedies you ingest aren't food after all. They are drugs, whether regulated or unregulated as supplements.

(As an aside, I know someone in California who has serious sleep issues due to pain and after trying various cocktails of drugs he got a prescription for marijuana and it worked great for him. I probably would be too worried about the federal crime to try it though.


Just another point of view.
Catrin2012-01-18 21:58:14 +0000 #8
I am trying different ways of supporting my neck. I THINK what is happening is that as I sleep, my head/neck gets in a bad position. This causes pain, wakes me up, then I do it all over again. Getting to sleep isn't a problem, it is this posture/pain cycle. I am really hoping that PT will help strengthen things...

I've heard of Lunesta and thought it was possible addictive. I will ask my doctor if he thinks it might help. I am unsure if medication or supplements can actually help with this - but that probably just shows my ignorance of things. I am not prone to chemical addiction, but I AM prone to over-doing things so I still tend to be cautious.

I do love beer, but it doesn't help me sleep. Indeed, too much beer keeps me awake...



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