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Who Will Fight Poochie Next?

ÉtienneDavignon2011-03-31 00:37:44 +0000 #1
Now let's keep BulldogWrestler out of this thread since he knows only 7 active boxers and leave this one for the big boys

JM Marquez - gettin Gully after the TKO

Berto - 2:07 KO in st - the Pooch man will probably not want this fight even though Berto would not be a good match up for Poochieow

Sergio Martinez - Sergio already said his skill and size are too much for Poochie and it would be like bullying. Uncle Bob has this face when it is mentioned

Timothy Bradley - Great stylistic match up

Devon Alexander - Ok, match up not as good as Timothy Bradley

Floyd - isn't fighting again

Yuri Foreman - Good chance he will fight Yuri Foreman

Cotto - A Cotto rematch for another title is a good chance
ÉtienneDavignon2011-03-31 00:40:27 +0000 #2
(Poochie) isn't different. His style hasn't changed. He hasn't improved much. He's just fought fighters tailor made to his style pretty much.

Styles make fights, at 140 Marquez gives Pacquiao problems. People who say "Pacquiao will knock him out quick" Lol, no he won't. He's not gonna fight Marquez like he fought Hatton or Margarito. It'll be a technical war.

morales said something about pac vs jmm will always be a close fight because theyre made for each other....

MGM Grand, Las Vegas - At the Juan Manuel Marquez-Michael Katsidis post-fight press conference Juan Manuel Marquez unveiled a new custom t-shirt that read "I beat Manny Pacquiao twice." Marquez doesn't see why Pacquiao can't meet him at a catch-weight of 142 or 144. A member of the media told Marquez that Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach told BoxingScene.com earlier this week that Manny will not be fighting at any catch-weights and that any fight would have to be at 147 pounds.

[Marquez said that it sounded like Team Pacquiao was making more excuses to avoid a third fight with the lineal lightweight champion.

"They are just making more excuses to prevent a fight. If Manny comes up with more excuses to not fight me then he must just be scared."

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer then addressed the media by saying that he would immediately look into making a third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez.

"I don't expect Bob (Arum) call me. I could wait forever and he wouldn't call me. I will however call Todd (duBoef) on Monday and see what the chances are of making the fight."

After the press conference BoxingScene caught up with Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and advised him that we ran a story earlier this week where Arum said that he would look to negotiate terms for a Marquez fight but that they would not do a co-promotion and that Top Rank would run the show alone.

When asked if Golden Boy would be willing to make a third fight under those conditions Schaefer responded by saying - "I don't think it is wise to negotiate through the media. Obviously I would talk to Top Rank and listen to their offer and see if we can make an agreement that suits us. I also need to talk to Juan (Manuel Marquez) and get his input. If I gave an answer now before starting negotiations I guess I wouldn't be a good negotiator (laughing). That is a fight we really want to make and we will do our best to make it."
ÉtienneDavignon2011-03-31 01:08:08 +0000 #3
MGM Grand, Las Vegas - Andre Berto didn't waste any time in his recent defense of the WBC welterweight title. Moments into the action, he dropped Freddy Hernandez with a hard right hand. The gutsy Mexican miraculously made it up, but it was obvious that he was in no condition to continue. Referee Russell Mora justifiably called the fight at 2:07 of the first round.

Berto is one of the few names being considered for Manny Pacquiao's next fight. Promoter Lou DiBella believes Berto made a case for himself to secure the opportunity with Pacquiao.

"I thought Berto was impressive tonight. He did what he had to do. Hernandez had never been stopped and his only career loss was a split decision from five year ago. Berto makes a strong case for himself to get Pacquiao. Now it's Pacquiao's move to make a decision," DiBella told BoxingScene.com.

"I know [Shane] Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez are in the running. Let's be honest, compare the last two performances of Mosley and the last two performances of Berto. Who would you rather see in the ring with Pacquiao? Marquez got a good win with Katsidis, but he's not a welterweight. He's too small to fight Pacquiao at 147-pounds."

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WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez told BoxingScene.com that he doesn't blame Bob Arum, CEO of Top Rank, for refusing his catch-weight proposal for a Manny Pacquiao fight. Martinez was willing to fight Pacquiao at 155-pounds, which Arum rejected. Pacquiao holds the WBC title at 154-pounds, but he plans to return to the welterweight division in his next fight.

"I don't blame Bob Arum because he already had his taste with Kelly Pavlik, so I don't blame him," Martinez told BoxingScene.com.

Martinez will continue to push for fights with Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

"I want to be the number one [pound-for-pound fighter], and to be the number one, you have to fight with the number one and the number two," Martinez said.

Martinez's promoter, Lou DiBella, has an alternative target - WBA 154-pound champion Miguel Cotto. Martinez would go down to 155 to face Cotto, which allows the Puerto Rican champion to keep his title regardless of the outcome.

"We'll fight him at 155 and then he'll still have [Julio Cesar] Chavez fight. If he wins he has two titles and if he loses he still has his belt. We think he's one of the few guys who's enough of a warrior to accept the challenge," DiBella said.

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There has been some muted concern in recent days over the possible harsh effects on the physical well-being of pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao after a group of neurologists discussed the possible long-term effects of shots to the head over years in the ring.

There was also additional concern after Pacquiao’s charming wife Jinkee revealed that there are times after a tough fight when Manny’s urine would either be red or even black, indicating possible effects of blows to the kidney.

In fact there is a high-level gathering of neurologists, scheduled to be held at the Diamond Hotel next week, where they will discuss the effects of a wide range of contact sports, without necessarily zeroing in on boxing or taking a stand against the sport.

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What bothers us is the fact that there are still some individuals in Team Pacquiao, including promoter Bob Arum, who want him to continue to fight despite the fact that he has already achieved unprecedented fame and fortune.

But what upsets us no end is the suggestion that he face Sergio Martinez, the reigning world middleweight champion who finished off Paul “The Punisher” Williams with one punch in the second round.

Catchweight or no catchweight, it is a risk not worth taking.

Martinez himself showed good sense when he termed it a mismatch. And without insulting Manny, he merely mentioned that he was too small.

He is damn right. Any one in Pacquiao’s camp who pushes the idea of a Martinez fight clearly doesn’t care for Manny like millions of his countrymen do.

Arum, it seems, is pushing for a fight against Shane Mosley.

What for? A fight against Mosley will give Floyd Mayweather Jr. another opportunity to ridicule Manny by claiming he takes on fighters that Floyd has beaten. He made the same claim when Pacquiao fought Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton—although he was nowhere near the dominating manner in which Pacquiao humbled both fighters.

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For his own sake, if Manny should insist on one last hurrah, the obvious choice is Floyd Mayweather Jr.

However, if Mayweather chickens out or winds up in jail, the one more fight that needs to be made should be against Juan Manuel Marquez.

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We are convinced that Pacquiao will give Marquez an unmerciful beating at 140 or even 147 pounds, although that depends on whether Marquez gets by Michael Katsidis this Sunday.

A Pacquiao trilogy is a fight that, in fairness to Marquez, he earned through the two previous encounters which were both close.

If, after demolishing Erik Morales in their second fight Pacquiao gave the Mexican one more chance, surely Marquez is more deserving.

A third fight will also enable Pacquiao to write finis to a festering doubt by some fight fans, media and De La Hoya who continue to claim that Marquez was robbed of victory.

A third Marquez fight will enable Pacquiao to shut his mouth while at the same time putting an end to the mindless mouthing of De La Hoya, who had promised to knock out Pacquiao but was instead pulverized when they fought.

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If Bob Arum can’t attract Mayweather and doesn’t want Marquez, then the best thing would be for Manny to retire. It’s not that he cannot continue to fight and win. But millions of his countrymen care for him too much to see him, God forbid, suffer after giving us so much pride and joy.
dhk19802011-03-31 01:59:19 +0000 #4
the match ups i would like to see poochieoow be in are against bradly or berto. but those don't really bring much to the table of terms their ability to draw a crowd. the only guys on that list who can and have headlined main events are JM and Cotto and PBF. but i don't see PBF fighting poochieoow and i don't care to see any more rematches.
ÉtienneDavignon2011-03-31 01:38:03 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by dhk1980

the match ups i would like to see poochieoow be in are against bradly or berto. but those don't really bring much to the table of terms their ability to draw a crowd. the only guys on that list who can and have headlined main events are JM and Cotto and PBF. but i don't see PBF fighting poochieoow and i don't care to see any more rematches.

Poochie and PBF isn't going to happen.

JM Marquez and Poochie would only happen at 147

Cotto vs Poochie II would prove he is avoiding up and coming fighters

Berto's win last night though like Larry M said "it came too easy , that means it is more on the other guy." I believe this as well and that someone like Poochie would give Berto trouble all night, but Bradley is a similar style as Poochie so we will not see that fight ever.
WEREWOLF2011-03-31 00:53:11 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by ÉtienneDavignon

Now let's keep BulldogWrestler out of this thread since he knows only 7 active boxers and leave this one for the big boys

JM Marquez - gettin Gully after the TKO

Berto - 2:07 KO in st - the Pooch man will probably not want this fight even though Berto would not be a good match up for Poochieow

Sergio Martinez - Sergio already said his skill and size are too much for Poochie and it would be like bullying. Uncle Bob has this face when it is mentioned

Timothy Bradley - Great stylistic match up

Devon Alexander - Ok, match up not as good as Timothy Bradley

Floyd - isn't fighting again

Yuri Foreman - Good chance he will fight Yuri Foreman

Cotto - A Cotto rematch for another title is a good chance

Mayweather and Berto are really exciting matchups for Pac. Martinez and Bradley are interesting but Bradley doesn't have the KO power to stop Pac.

I have no interest in rematches with Cotto or Marquez. Foreman has no place in this discussion.

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