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Training Taboos/Blasphemy Statements for Kickboxing

stupified2011-04-17 05:23:29 +0000 #1
Just like you will never hear a U.S. politician say the word overpopulation (well except Gore), there are just certain realities in kickboxing training nobody has the balls to admit. So being a newb on this forum I might as well be the sacrificial lamb.

Taboo statement #1: Fight with your chin high and not tucked in. Have you ever heard somebody tell you to do this? No. OK, I have had one trainer tell me this, and he happened to be one of the best thai trainers in the U.S. If you want to understand why, assume your fighting stance with your chin tucked and try to throw a leg check or a knee, now try with your chin higher. That is the reason. Yep, tucking your chin takes away most of your weapons (knees, kicks, checks) and speed. An analogy is that any boxer will tell you to fight with your torso turned to the right (more defensive), but kickboxers know to have it more front-ward (allows left kicks). Defense vs. offense. Always a tradeoff.

Taboo statement #2: Don't turn over your kicks. It is too slow. Yeah if you have the time it is nice to hit flush. You know it takes time to turn the kick over. Time that allows your opponent to prepare for the impact. Most kicks that land (at least in heavyweight division) aren't turned over.

Taboo statement #3: Don't kick with your shin. Sakasem told me ankle. He is a thai fighter with over 200 fights. There is more power at the crook, not the shin. Most kicks are with this area and not the shin. More reach. What people profess and what they do are two different stories. That being said, there are legitimate reasons for a guy fighting in Thailand for a living not to kick with their feet (broken toes), throw spinning backfists (broken wrists), front snap kicks with the toes (broken toes).

Taboo statement #4: Arm punching while throwing hooks is good. Everybody professes the picture perfect tight boxing hook with your body behind it. Yeah maybe in boxing. You don't see thai fighters do it for a reason. To easy to get clinched, low-kicked, and too difficult to follow with a knee strike or a leg kick. Arm punches (wider hooks with the arms) are where it is at.

Taboo statement #5: Axe kicks are important. Your percentage of landing any other strike following an axe kick goes through the roof. It is a strike with a different dimension, and completely wrecks your opponents rythm and timing. You can land about anything after throwing an axe kick.

Taboo statement #6: Go ahead and open that mouth when you hit. Yeah you might get wrecked with a counter to the chin. But it adds power to every strike (kick, knee, and punch). This isn't boxing. Go ahead and scream when you hit. Offense vs. defense, always a tradeoff.

Taboo statement #7: When training on the heavy bag, and working on technique, it is about worthless to throw more than 1 strike every say 6 seconds. There is a reason batters training to hit a baseball take time between each swing. You want to almost forget the previous strike. Similar to memorizing a list, it is when you almost forget but then recall that the neural connections burn in the best. The human brain learns and digests at a certain rate. Lazy = good for learning.

Taboo statement #8: Lazy fighters win. Lazy training in the gym is the best for the mind. 2 weeks of no training and your cardio is mostly gone. Technique (and mental training) lasts forever and builds. The no-pain no gain guys burnout and usually have crap technique.

I haven't really heard or seen anybody write these 8 statements before, but I have met competent and knowledgeable believers in these statements. Just like everybody deep down knows we have a breeding issue (vastly operpopulated on this planet) but nobody talks about it. Everybody deep down wants to believe that anything that is given (and not earned through blood and sweat) is not valuable, but the best gifts in life are free. Have fun training, and you will be a better fighter. Take all the time in the world in the gym, and enjoy watching other guys do 100 situps and pushups and 10 minute rounds on the bag.

I have won 13 straight amateur muay thai fights, but don't claim to be anything special. Just my thoughts and blasphemy. FLAME ON.

Ash2011-04-17 05:36:15 +0000 #2
I have to greatly disagree with #4. Fundamentally that's a significant problem. Wider punches require greater distance between you and your opponent, and on top of arm punches being slower and considerably weaker, you risk putting yourself back in kicking range, or even worse, getting countered with a well-timed kick. It only took me getting kicked once in the armpit to learn trying hooks out of position is a bad idea.

I don't particularly agree with #1 either, however, there are quite a few successful fighters that can fight without their chin tucked, so clearly it isn't an issue for everyone. I definitely don't recommend doing #1 and #6 at the same time.

Regarding #7, I see what you're saying, but to me fighting is equal parts deliberate and instinctive. Some people lean one way or the other, but for me it's 50/50. IMO, if you don't drill higher difficulty combinations over and over, it'll never plant itself in your muscle memory and all the time you spent drilling goes down the drain the first time you get hit. I'm definitely a big proponent of drilling.



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