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Italy vs Moldova

TheItalianBull2010-05-04 07:25:00 +0000 #1
well well well... just take a guess who scored in this one!!!???
A3eMurderer2010-05-04 07:29:00 +0000 #2
Vieri & Gilardino, I'm surprised vieri actually scored
Ronaldinho Rulz2010-05-04 08:12:36 +0000 #3
Well I happened to watch this one with SC and we both agree that vieri's time in the italian national team is over. He may have scored but it was Del Piero who created the chance, and vieri even ***ked up on the first touch. Del Piero may have won a spot with Lippi but Vieri should only go to germany if he is used primarily as a substitute.
TheItalianBull2010-05-04 08:23:40 +0000 #4
i found it kinda funny vieri scored... some people mite say now... this is the begining of a new and better vieri but i say... BULLSHIT!... but i apreciate what he has done for us in the past and i lov him for this

but now he should step down like maldini and baggio and others
soccerates2010-05-04 08:04:19 +0000 #5
Vieri actually miss-timed his first touch and nearly lost it. He was lucky to get the second touch. Most everyone in the bar I was watching it at were not impressed with him at all. Lippi did him a big favor by keeping him in and substituting Gilardino in for Iaquinta instead. I had a feeling Lippi would do that. I think Lippi is merely paying respect to Vieri for his past service and because of his reputation.

Del Piero played well today though. He was generally responsible for creating many chances, and looked dangerous in his own right.

Lippi played a B team that's for sure. Not until Zambrotta and Gilardino came in were there any starters. It showed on defense too, where Donkey Materazzi was at fault for the Moldovan goal - I think their 2nd shot on net. De Sanctis didn't look to sharp in that regard either. Nevertheless it was a meaningless game for almost everyone but Del Piero and Vieri, both kept their hopes alive by combining for the first goal.

The second was brilliant finishing by Gilardino, who just a minute earlier missed a header. He took the cross down and hit it with the inside of his foot to the opposite corner. The keeper was frozen. He'll be a legitimate threat next year. I just hope that the Cassano situation sorts itself out, because THEY SHOULD BE PLAYING TOGETHER IN FRONT OF TOTTI!!! In the game that they did play together, they were excellent. You can double team one or the other, but that leaves one of the trio open and all three can score. Toni and Iaquinta only when the other team poses a physical threat, or will likely play physically and you need an aerial component. If were matching skill with skill then it must be Gilardino, Cassano and Totti!
A3eMurderer2010-05-04 09:08:03 +0000 #6
Toni , Iaquinta , Gilardino & Cassano when he stops breaking balls.

soccerates2010-05-04 08:12:29 +0000 #7
I have a question for Philipas, since I know he is reading this and he has been pm'ing me saying that Italian players are panzy's that are more interested in their hair than playing soccer.

Early on in June he said this and I quote:

"In my humble opinion all the statistics of the past have very little value for the present. It is better to ask what are their chances for the future and unfortunately one can come to the conclusion that they are a spent force."

The Azzurri are a SPENT FORCE, has beens, caput, finished, finito...There are at least ten teams that i can think of that are better including; Brazil and Argentina obviously, Germany, Mexico, Portugal, Croatia, Holland, Ukraine, Serbia and Greece."


So this is a serious question to Philipas, does he still think Italy is shit as he's said many times in the past and in recent pm's to me?

Phil, you also mentioned that you believe Greece's group with the likes of Albania, Khazakstan, and Georgia were more potent than Italy's group. We are all entitled to our opinions, but for once I'd like for you to back that up with some sort of statistical comparison rather then empty euphemisms, if you can?

I disagree though. I don't find Denmark any better than Norway, neither do I think Albania are better than Scotland or Slovenia. But that's just my opinion at the moment. If you're serious about rational debate, I'd be happy to oblige.
A3eMurderer2010-05-04 08:45:10 +0000 #8
Here - I'll play the lawyer for a bit...

Albania, Khazakstan & Georgia are crappy teams, however, it looked like Albania played differently at home, quite well actually, they made it difficult for the opposition. Nonetheless, Group 2 was one of the hardest qualification groups, 4 teams were pretty much evenly balanced and fighting for 2 spaces when it all began (Greece, Ukraine,Denmark,Turkey). It wasn't too clear which teams would go through, or rather, it was difficult to make a rational decision - I chose Greece & Denmark, but I was wrong. With regards to group 5 however, it was pretty clear that Italy would go through, easy group. Denmark is probably better than Norway, or at least if I had to bet money, I'd put it on Denmark. Generally, they seem to follow a pattern of unpredictable perfomance levels, but Norway is on par with a mediocre Denmark IMO.

Anyway - It's been a while since Italy has won anything, a lot of people have been suggesting that "Italy is relying on past successes" - I don't know ... With exception of Euro2004, Italy has always done well, constantly reaching the latter stages of competitions. The current team seems extremely capable as I see it, and a place in the final is definitely in reach. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another Italy v Brasil final.



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