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kram2010-05-04 16:53:10 +0000 #1
It is obvious that many World Cup matches have been fixed by dubious calls from Refs with a bias for one thing or another or just money. I think that they way Soccer is Refed should be changed. I thing calls should have the potential to be overrided. I believe that video replay should be used in the case of dispute to review a call by a higher governing body. The contesting coach can view this replay immediately together with this governing body. I think that this would keep everybody a lot cleaner in the game.
arminius2010-05-04 16:57:06 +0000 #2
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Originally Posted by kram

It is obvious that many World Cup matches have been fixed by dubious calls from Refs with a bias for one thing or another or just money. I think that they way Soccer is Refed should be changed. I thing calls should have the potential to be overrided. I believe that video replay should be used in the case of dispute to review a call by a higher governing body. The contesting coach can view this replay immediately together with this governing body. I think that this would keep everybody a lot cleaner in the game.

i agree 100%, unfortunetly sepp blatter dos'nt.
kram2010-05-04 17:06:28 +0000 #3
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Originally Posted by arminius

i agree 100%, unfortunetly sepp blatter dos'nt.

The fact that this is not done means that the Ref is judge, jury and executioner. This makes it too easy for corruption to prevail in the World Cup. Any time that you put too much power in the hands of one or a few individuals there is great potential for corruption. That is one thing about American government that is good. A system of checks and ballances is in place to avoid any kind of dictatorship. I am not saying that there is not corruption in American government. Of course there is. Corruption exists all over the world. But by spreading the power out to all citizens corruption is kept under controll. Sepp Blatter is not with Fifa anymore right? Even if he was, the rules of the game should not be dictated by the President of the organization. His power is not and should not be that extensive. The World Cup is too sacred an event. It should not be subject to any form of corruption not matter what corporate interests are involved. I remember a lot of people saying that back in 2002 that NIKE had multi billion dollar advertising contract with the Brazilian team and any threats to them reaching the finals of loosing the finals would have been very costly. The corrupt plans that were in place back then allowed Korea to look good as well as promote "success" for the Brazilian team. This is one reason why I think that after the days of Pele, Brazil has not been significantly better than any of the other top teams. I think a lot of people are trying to profit from the Pele era success/ image. It is essentially a bunch of hype.
arminius2010-05-04 17:02:35 +0000 #4
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Originally Posted by kram

The fact that this is not done means that the Ref is judge, jury and executioner. This makes it too easy for corruption to prevail in the World Cup. Any time that you put too much power in the hands of one or a few individuals there is great potential for corruption. That is one thing about American government that is good. A system of checks and ballances is in place to avoid any kind of dictatorship. I am not saying that there is not corruption in American government. Of course there is. Corruption exists all over the world. But by spreading the power out to all citizens corruption is kept under controll. Sepp Blatter is not with Fifa anymore right? Even if he was, the rules of the game should not be dictated by the President of the organization. His power is not and should not be that extensive. The World Cup is too sacred an event. It should not be subject to any form of corruption not matter what corporate interests are involved. I remember a lot of people saying that back in 2002 that NIKE had multi billion dollar advertising contract with the Brazilian team and any threats to them reaching the finals of loosing the finals would have been very costly. The corrupt plans that were in place back then allowed Korea to look good as well as promote "success" for the Brazilian team. This is one reason why I think that after the days of Pele, Brazil has not been significantly better than any of the other top teams. I think a lot of people are trying to profit from the Pele era success/ image. It is essentially a bunch of hype.

i'm pretty sure blatter's still the head of fifa.
Mexico Kid2010-05-04 17:59:33 +0000 #5
Actually If an Assistant Ref doest like the call that the Center Ref has made, He can talk to him in the middle of a match...then he could cancel the call or keep on playing.....this has happened to me before and im a ref so its kinda hard haing players and coaches screaming in your ear.
kram2010-05-04 17:44:28 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by Mexico Kid

Actually If an Assistant Ref doest like the call that the Center Ref has made, He can talk to him in the middle of a match...then he could cancel the call or keep on playing.....this has happened to me before and im a ref so its kinda hard haing players and coaches screaming in your ear.

Yes but if it is only down to those refs then it is still easy to fix results. There needs to be a higher order to answer to in such cases.
LebSoccerBoy2010-05-04 17:35:09 +0000 #7
it would be nice to see video replays and such...BUT! u have to remember the nonstop clock! and yea, u could add stoppage time and stuff...but that would be ridiculous!
kram2010-05-04 19:16:23 +0000 #8
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Originally Posted by LebSoccerBoy

it would be nice to see video replays and such...BUT! u have to remember the nonstop clock! and yea, u could add stoppage time and stuff...but that would be ridiculous!

If that's what you need to do to keep it clean then that's what should be done. Also, questionable calls don't happen often enough that clock stopping time would be an issue. It only happens enough to fix a game, unfortunately. Also, this would deter More refs from bad calls and that in turn would make lost time even more insignificant.

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