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Inters starting 11 ? line up .....adriano crespo suazo cruz ibra.. which one ?

interista-edOn2010-05-04 22:04:51 +0000 #1
Inters starting 11 ? line up .....adriano crespo suazo cruz ibra.. which one ?
Sebastian2010-05-04 22:13:39 +0000 #2
...Thta's bit of a Sweet Problem eh??? ...
Quixote2010-05-04 22:12:24 +0000 #3
Hello friends, Greetings from rainy Belgium.

This is the current squad, with everyone in their +/- natural position:

------------------Cesar

------------------Toldo

-----------------Orlandini

Maicon-----Cordoba-----Materazzi-----Maxwell

Zanetti-----Burdisso------Chivu---------Coco

-------------------------Samuel

--------------------------Rivas

------------------Vieira

----------------Cambiasso

-----------------Dacourt

Figo-------------Stankovic-----------Solari

------------------Jimenez------------Cesar

---------Zlatan-----------Crespo

---------Cruz------------Adriano

--------Suazo------------Recoba

A few points:

Natural position does not mean Mancini is going to play them this way

In fact very few things Mancini does seem natural to me. But let's not get into that, I swore to myself I would give him a break until October.

Coco, Cesar and Recoba could be leaving (+ rumours about Solari, Burdisso and Cruz). I have no idea, but for now let's suppose they all stay.

There is an obvious surplus of left footed CB's and of Strikers

There is a lack of natural wingers ( Stankovic, Jimenez, Recoba, Suazo are not really wingers are they; Figo hasn't got the legs anymore; Cesar is no real option ).

There is a heavy unbalance in the squad. It is an in yo face kick some ass mean machine squad, but not a balanced one. It lacks ... (I want to say morals, but this is Inter who am I kidding)... It lacks clarity.

I personally like a team to have a clear identity and formation (like Barca or, excuse my french, Milan). It would be nice if Inter could achieve that, but with the many players at disposal it's not easy. Hard decisions must be made to get to that clarity: Recoba? Adriano? Samuel? etc... Either you keep them and they play, or you sell them and basta.

As a last point: I'll never understand why Inter don't go for Riquelme. The best football brain + feet in the business. Pure class. A true n° 10. And cheap. And Argentinian. With Vieira behind him, Recoba, Zlatan and Stankovic around him, Crespo up front; it could be... Forget about it.

Anyway, I'd play a 433 mostly, I think, with

Toldo or Cesar

Zanetti/Matrix/Chivu/Maxwell or Maicon/Matrix/Samuel/Chivu

Stankovic/Vieira/Cambiasso or Zanetti/Vieira/Stankovic

Zlatan/Crespo/Recoba or Figo/Adriano/Zlatan

or Suazo/Crespo/Zlatan

(...or any combination of the 17 strikers at disposal)

Ok this thread has made me tired - I hope the same doesn't count for you. I must go now and sleep and dream of Mancini having very clear ideas and having the balls to apply them.

Nice dream.
ilcapitano2010-05-04 22:31:11 +0000 #4
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quixote

I personally like a team to have a clear identity and formation (like Barca or, excuse my french, Milan). It would be nice if Inter could achieve that, but with the many players at disposal it's not easy. Hard decisions must be made to get to that clarity: Recoba? Adriano? Samuel? etc... Either you keep them and they play, or you sell them and basta.

You really should post more often, quixote. I kind of agree with you on this one, Inter don't have an identity as a team like Milan do. We have many "world class" players who might never really become world class. In fact they're lucky to play at all. But here we are, constantly worried about if we have enough back-up in case of injuries. And it makes sense, of course...There are teams like Liverpool whose coaches (first Houllier, now Benitez) love to rotate the players in every game - that's a kind of identity as well. That's not the case with Inter though.

Most of us writing in this forum would like to see a more attacking midfield, with a playmaker (like Riquelme) instead of relying on crossing wide players and the occasional flashes of creativity from Ibrahimovic. Mancini is a conservative, that's for sure, and we haven't seen the kind of attractive play we expected when he was first selected to his job.

Playing against Valencia in yesterday's friendly Mancini tried the trident with Adriano, Suazo and Cruz. That doesn't say much though because he used many youth team players in the starting eleven. I think it's likely after this preseason experimenting he will go back to 4-4-2...
Quixote2010-05-04 23:05:38 +0000 #5
Thanks, Il Capitano. I know I don't post very often but I'm very busy lately and I also got a little bored last season. The scudetto was won too early, and the CL defeat was just too disheartening. The next season is the real test though and as always in pre-season, I am hoping for the best.

I only saw parts of the friendly game yesterday and I got very confused. Of course it's early, people say this is the time for experimenting with different formations and the conclusions will come in a few weeks... But I say this is a waste of precious time. Mancini should at least have a general idea and then see which elements can make that idea work. Cruz-Adriano-Suazo is absurd. If Mancini wants to try a worward trio, great! But anyone can tell Cruz-Adriano-Suazo is not going to work. Why bother? I'm afraid he has no clue.

His talks of trying Chivu as a midfielder is worrying me too. Not a bad idea in theory, but this is not kid's practice at summer camp, this is preparation for a year in which Inter must win the CL. Although Chivu is a confirmed and excellent LCB, if he wants Chivu as a midfielder well fine, play him there. But at least he should be clear and then get rid of Dacourt (who always gives his best, respect!), find new spots for Zanetti and Stankovic etc. etc.

This year's squad gives me a headache and a bad feeling. I read Elcino's comment that it's kind of a sweet problem, having all these options. It's true, but it's so sweet that it's sickening. Too much syrup. It's childish, stupid and disgusting.

This tread was about the starting 11 line-up, but honestly I have no idea. I would first get rid of all the surplus and stick with 15 players who would be the core of the team, and some back-ups in case of injuries or bans. But as it is now it's ridiculous. It's niice to have Samuel or Cruz as a back-up, but not as a fourth or fifth option.

You know, girls who have a closet full of pretty clothes and "nothing to wear" ? Well Mancini reminds me of them. He keeps buying new clothes that he already has in 7 different colours, but still he has nothing to wear. He's all confused and then he's is too late for the party because he couldn't decide. A pretty girl just needs a good pair of jeans.

(no offence - I love ALL the girls in the world and ALL their overstuffed closets and I'd marry all of you if you'd ask me and if the law would let me...)

I've ranted on for too long as usual. Let's see what Mancio cooks up for today's friendly against Arsenal.
ilcapitano2010-05-04 22:46:15 +0000 #6
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quixote

His talks of trying Chivu as a midfielder is worrying me too. Not a bad idea in theory, but this is not kid's practice at summer camp, this is preparation for a year in which Inter must win the CL. Although Chivu is a confirmed and excellent LCB, if he wants Chivu as a midfielder well fine, play him there. But at least he should be clear and then get rid of Dacourt (who always gives his best, respect!), find new spots for Zanetti and Stankovic etc. etc.

Really, he can't be that crazy. Inter has tracked Chivu all summer, he was the number one target. Fisrt we buy one of the best defenders for something like 10 mill and then play him out of position? I'm sure this has been a quote that has been separated from its context. Maybe Mancini said something like "Chivu can play everywhere, even the midfield" or something like that...
B-Town Rovers2010-05-04 22:27:46 +0000 #7
I hope so also. I worry about age of Inter. I mean Recoba, Zanetti, Cordoba, Cruz, Samuel, Viera, Figo, Stankovic, Solari all seem to be getting a bit over the hill.

I would love to see Inter go out and get some younger talent. I think having Chivu in the back with Materazzi is scary. Also with Sauzo, Zlatan, and Adriano up front. Wow

I've heard rumors of maybe selling Cambiasso. So who knows.

Maybe I'm going to far here, but I wouldn't mind Inter getting more Italian. Everytime I watch them it's like watching the Argentina NT. Italy has so many good players, I would love to see Inter get in the Italian talent pool.
GiorgioII2010-05-04 22:33:53 +0000 #8
Zanetti----Cordoba----Chivu----Maxwell

Figo---------Vieira-----Cambiasso---Deki

------------Suazo-----Zlatan----------

Still lacking a winger to replace Figo really.

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