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Alexander´s Ancestry ?!

GentiaNi2010-05-10 01:42:15 +0000 #1
We all know that Alexander the Great was from an ancient balcan land called Macedonia, (the modern fyr Macedonia is NOT ralated to the ancient one)

Macedonia shared its border with its neighbouring countries which was, in the east with Thrace, in the west with Illyria, & in south with ancient Greece.

Alexander is considered to be one of the famoused warrior ever, and for that matter many of modern balcan countries today are claiming him, as it was theirs, such ppl to claim him as most are the modern Greeks, bulgars and even slavic macedonians, or (fyromans), claiming him without facts and proovens is = 0

Another thing why the greeks mostly claim Alexander is because Alexander spread hellenic culture to the world, and thats right, BUT it doez never mean or make him Greek him self for that matter, because he knew hellenic culture and might also speak greek language, that learned from aristotle does not make him Greek !!!

Many ancient emperors knew the ancient byzantine language or the greek in this case, but he was Illyrian, macedonian, roman etc.

another example i can make up here, Justinian1 or Bardhullus were great emperors and Justinian in this case has served the eastern roman empire in constantiople all his life but he was not Roman neither byzantine,

he him self was an Illyrian, who served the roman empire in times..

So for that matter it cannot claim like that. i have read alot about it, not only from one wiew of an opinion, but mostly from all of these statments about alexanders real ancestry and found out with facts (in one these fact sites prooving with fact and only with facts! and no claims that Alexander the Great was from Albanian ancestry most exact one of his parents was defently Illyrian..but getting more in detail about this, we found out that alexander was not only half illyrian but actually he was full Illyrian.. you may call this as claim too, but u can choos ur self. Im going to give some of these statments and ur going to think about it ur self and relize about it..!'

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Originally Posted by GentiaNi

There are few places where Alexander the Great's influence has not been felt. His vast empire spread from the Atlantic shores of Spain to the plains of India. His example has been admired and followed for generations to come, and his legacy has been deeply felt by the entire world. It is said that Julius Ceaser himself began to weep as he stood under the shadow of a statue of Alexander the Great, for Alexander had conquered half the world by 19, and Ceaser not even made a name for himself by that age.

And how was he Albanian in any way? Well, first of all Alexander was son of Philip II and Olympia. Olympia, was the princess of Epirus, a province in Northern Greece, considered to be modern day Albania, and an ancient territory of Albanian tribes. This relation of Alexander having Albanian blood is considered somewhat feasible and acceptable by the history books, but we want to stretch out the enigma of Alexander.

Initially there is the question of where and to what people Alexander belonged to. It is known that Alexander the Great, was really Alexander of Macedon, and the current flag of Macedonia is the ancient sun flag of Alexander's army. This seems reasonable, but what really were the "Macedon" people. As stated in the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, "the Slavs, occupied much of the area [Balkans] by the 6th century AD", so it cannot be possible for the now largely Slavic Macedonia to be a descendant from Alexander the Great. Slavic tribes did not come into the region of Northern Greece until well after Alexander's death, which leaves only two people left, the Albanians and the Greeks. It is important tot note that the history books have not labeled Alexander Greek, and therefore he can only be Albanian. Albanian tribes are the earliest known to occupy northern Greece, and that allows Alexander only one nationality. Alexander did not have Albanian blood, he was an Albanian. To Albanians this fact seems very clear, for we have named our currency lek, after Leka I Madh.

The Barbaric war style of the Illyrians was deeply rooted in Alexander's spirit, which is good reason for his expertise as a general and a conqueror.

More proof of Alexander's Albanian ancestry would have to be the close relations he had with the King of the Illyrians, practically a man of his own kin. There is an ancient legend that the Illyrian king gave Alexander a large, beastly, dog to commemorate his achievements. The beast was so ferocious, Alexander decided to make it hunt bears. The dog showed no interest in this endeavor and lay lazily without moving. This angered Alexander and he had the dog killed. When the king of the Illyrians heard of this he sent him another dog, this time with a message of "not wasting the dog's time with small things". This time Alexander had the dog fight a lion, which the dog quickly broke the back of, and then an Elephant, who the dog forced off a cliff. The extensive diplomacy between Alexander and the Illyrians only suggests that Alexander was an Albanian himself.

Also, there is the conquered territory of Alexander. When looking at a map of his advances, oddly enough Illirium and Northern Greece is not touched by his armies. Yet, the Illyrian and Northern Greek tribes did not have armies capable of facing the Great Alexander. But Alexander considered them as one, they were all Albanian. Alexander could not possibly conquer his own land. That is why this area remained untouched.

Accepting Alexander's Albanian ancestry opens a vast world of possibilities. There is of course the long Ptolemy dynasty of Egypt that followed after Alexander's death, started by one of Alexander's generals and childhood friend. Accepting Alexander as an Albanian, would mean accepting a big part of Egypt's history to be determined by an Albanian dynasty, that of Ptolemy.

Alexander's genius and accomplishments opened a great chapter in the history of Albania. A chapter that has never been forgotten.


PAO_HELLAS2010-05-10 01:49:45 +0000 #2
To conclude quickly, are you trying to tell us that Alexandros was Albano?
Sandro12010-05-10 01:56:48 +0000 #3
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Originally Posted by PAO_HELLAS

To conclude quickly, are you trying to tell us that Alexandros was Albano?

Does that mean he was Greek then





????

read the whole thread if you want. but if you dont want, plz leave it.. !

we dont want troubles here to start ! thanks
GentiaNi2010-05-10 02:42:35 +0000 #4
thanks sandro..

As i been said before, those who does find it booring. and dont want to discuss in peace or is looking to provoke/insult or smthing plz dont be bother to leave it !
PAO_HELLAS2010-05-10 01:59:59 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by Sandro1

Does that mean he was Greek then





????

read the whole thread if you want. but if you dont want, plz leave it.. !

we dont want troubles here to start ! thanks

What an audacity!

If you don't want troubles you better not start historical/political threads outside the away from soccer forum - I am reffering to both of you. You are not going to appoint what I will say, I have the obligation to retrieve the truth, in a period full of propaganda .
GentiaNi2010-05-10 04:02:03 +0000 #6
First of all, this has nothing to do with you, and no one called you here !!

so instead of telling us what to do why dont you go away..

and BTW we have allready an Albanian mod here, who can take care of it.

so its non of ur business. your welcome to discuss here anytime but dont play Smart !!!
PAO_HELLAS2010-05-10 04:19:44 +0000 #7
I did not offended someone of you, but I will not accept you wanting me to shut up. This is the Albanian section of the forum but this doesn't means it is only for Albanians. You can force none to leave as long as he doesn't insults.

So may I adapt the question to you a bit: Which was Alexanders ancestry to your opinion? Because your thread is about this and you don't give an exact anwser. The text you posted is too general.
Sandro12010-05-10 02:47:54 +0000 #8
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Originally Posted by PAO_HELLAS

I did not offended someone of you, but I will not accept you wanting me to shut up. This is the Albanian section of the forum but this doesn't means it is only for Albanians. You can force none to leave as long as he doesn't insults.

So may I adapt the question to you a bit: Which was Alexanders ancestry to your opinion? Because your thread is about this and you don't give an exact anwser. The text you posted is too general.

Dude we only saying no provoking and insults, u can talk all that u want as long as u dont provoke/insult cuz we dont need that.. and no one said that only Albanians is allowed to post here, u must missunderstood us..

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