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Bigger, Stronger, Faster Documentary Video

BruceLee2010-05-28 06:20:16 +0000 #1
Been meaning to see this for a while, and finally watched it this weekend. I thought it was well done even though I had a general idea about what it was about.

Makes me wonder what percentage of MMA fighters are on the juice.

Chris's brother, Mike was a jobber on WWE and ECW.

Bigger , Stronger, Faster Part 1:

Video From YouTube:(link)

feralminded2010-05-28 06:24:17 +0000 #2
Aye it was a great movie and fairly accurate in its portrayal of steroids. I love the correlation it drew between the public's perception of steroids and pot, and how both are unfairly demonized/stigmatized by a society scared of people perceived as "out of control". All in all a lot of very solid information and paints a bright circle around the real issue with performance enhancing drugs, not the drugs themselves but the effects of the social pressures that drive a large percentage of americans to consider/use/need them in order to feel like they can keep up or live up to the larger than life role models we all try and emulate (and I'm talking about steroids, viagra, caffeine, adderall, etc etc here).
ACIDBATHBELFORT2010-05-28 06:51:22 +0000 #3
Its a great documentary, showing an accurate portrayal. Not the demonizing of juice like most media. There are also some great excerpts on youtube that didnt make the final cut. I really like the interview with Christian Boeving. He was released from Muscle Tech as a sponsored athlete for admitting he juiced. As well as saying people shouldnt expect to take Hydroxycut and look like him. The excerpt also showed how easy it is to enhance the look of models with a computer. Overall a great piece.

Id wanted to write up on this after see this over a year ago but never got around to it. Id say juice is very prevalent in MMA. Its just too difficult to train and keep wait. Not to mention all the nagging injuries you have to fight. The drugs are always one step ahead of the testing.
BruceLee2010-05-28 07:37:16 +0000 #4
I found it interesting that there was a segment where he visited Floyd Landis, who was denying taking anything at the time claiming he just slept in a oxygen chamber considering Landis current revelations.

I also didn't know about the girl who cheated on the Boston Marathon by skipping to the front of the line, so you learn something new every day.

Making the supplements with the illegal aliens was funny too. Really underscored the fact that all those supplements don't really do much.
Justical2010-05-28 08:03:17 +0000 #5
im on the third part already and it seems great!

I truly hope there isnt many mma fighters juicing, but I have a feeling there are more then I would like to think juicing
BruceLee2010-05-28 08:43:04 +0000 #6
Interesting, the director, Chris Bell, went to USC film school and was a writer for the WWE (which explains all the WWE footage). Chris and his brother Maddog were also the ones who trained and got John Cena into the wrestling business.

"The Mayhem Crew welcomed Chris to the show, and right off the bat, Blade asked if he was a part of the group of writers/members of the WWE Creative Team that had Mae Young give birth to a hand back in 1999. Chris laughed & said he was not, and also added that Vince McMahon can take the blame for that segment.

Mosh then mentioned the release of Bigger, Stronger, Faster* & its role at last years Sundance Film Festival, and how this year, Linda Hogan made her appearance known at the same event. Chris said that she should have been there last year when the documentary was being shown, because they “bag on Hulk Hogan pretty good, so he probably hates the movie…It would be perfect for her.”

Mosh asked Chris to talk about the background & how the idea for the movie first came about. Chris said that after graduating from USC’s School Of Cinematic Arts, he always wanted to do something about steroids. He added that when he first started thinking of movie ideas, he was always an anti-steroid guy (until trying them himself when he was 26), while both of his brothers were already using them. After a couple of months of using them & realizing they were not for him, he added that he always wondered why he had the moral problem with steroids when his brothers did not, and wanted to make a movie that showed the truth. In the movie, Chris says that “steroids are a side effect of being an American,” meaning that “steroids are another part of the puzzle of people feeling that they aren’t good enough.”

Mosh & Blade talked about Senator Henry Waxman’s recent interviews with both Vince McMahon & Dixie Carter, and one of the most-intriguing quotes of his recent report that was just released: “The information provided during interviews indicate that steroid use is pervasive in professional wrestling and the organizations involved have not taken adequate steps to address this problem.” The Mayhem Crew then mentioned that Sen. Waxman is Chris Bell’s Congressman, and asked what Chris has heard since these reports have come out. Bell said that he interviewed Waxman in the movie, and “the guy is completely clueless when it comes to anabolic steroids.” Chris mentioned some video clips that are posted online from his interview with Sen. Waxman, including clips where he is unsure of the legal drinking age in America, “which just goes to show the people in Congress have no clue what’s going on with the general public…They’re not in touch with the people in question, and they just want to make a swift judgment about steroids.” Chris mentioned his brother, “Mad Dog” Mike Bell’s death this past December as another wrestler who died at a young age, but was not steroid-related at all & just more of the effects of the hard wrestling lifestyle. He added that if Congress is going to look at professional wrestling, they might have to start looking at different aspects like alcohol, painkiller abuse, or the daily schedule.

After a brief discussion of the positives & negatives in the media when it pertains to wrestling, Chris mentioned the WWE’s current World Heavyweight Champion, John Cena, as a man who should be looked up to & one of the nicest guys he knows. Chris has never seen him turn away an autograph request, and that Cena is always giving advice to anyone who is looking for it. He then mentioned how Chyna (Joanie Laurer) was in the news recently, and although she has not been with World Wrestling Entertainment in almost a decade, she was still associated as a wrestling personality & the wrestling business, in general, was getting hurt by it. Chris mentioned that him & his brother were two of the instrumental ones who got Cena into wrestling after seeing John for the first time. Although it took some time, Chris said about after four months of pushing him to go, they all went to the local wrestling school, and after Cena got into the ring, he knew that is what he wanted to do. He added that his brother (Mike) was John’s trainer, while Chris handled the writing aspect of UPW at the time, where “The Prototype” gimmick originated.

Mosh & Blade addressed Henry Waxman’s comments again, and asked Chris who he believes needs to do more work between the WWE & TNA, with regards to their respective “Wellness Policies.” Chris said that he does not see much of TNA, but knows that a lot of the guys in the WWE are no longer in as good shape as they used to be. He added that the government should just lay off of the whole thing, and once again mentioned that they should be looking in other areas to see what the problem could be instead of just blaming it on steroids. He mentioned that in Bigger, Stronger, Faster*, they show that steroids are not the only problem or the main problem, like prescription painkillers & other narcotics are. He added that the WWE should revise their policy to look more towards legal drugs like painkillers & alcohol, which torture the body after constant use. He mentioned that during his time in World Wrestling Entertainment, whenever somebody would mention steroids, Scott Steiner would be the first person to say he was not on them, and everybody else already knew that “you can’t look like that naturally.” Chris went on to say that he hears individuals say such statements as “people cannot make it in the wrestling business without taking painkillers or steroids,” but knows for a fact that John Cena & Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson do not do them, and they are two of the biggest names in wrestling. After Cena’s neck surgery, Chris said John would just squeeze a tennis ball as hard as he could to ease the pain in his neck, and never took one pain pill. Chris then added that something that the WWE & TNA might want to look at is giving guys some time off…which is what they need the most."

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