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If you don't tap and go to sleep...

cpa5oh2010-06-18 00:23:33 +0000 #1
...how long would it take for permanent damage to occur? I know some guys take pride in not tapping, but how much time does the referee have to realize the guy's out before something permanent happens?

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Ash2010-06-18 00:30:33 +0000 #2
It's more dangerous if you're fatigued. If you get caught in a choke 20 seconds into a fight, it'd take longer than the duration of the round to do harm. When your body is tired and deprived of oxygen, I think it gets a good deal riskier.

This is just what I believe though, I'm no doctor clearly.
cpa5oh2010-06-18 00:56:42 +0000 #3
Thanks...so it doesn't sound like one of those things where if the ref doesn't get in there in like, 10 seconds, someone's going to die or have brain damage. I guess I've seen so many things on tv where someone is getting strangled and fighting it, then as soon as they stop they're dead.
PITTFOX2010-06-18 01:10:48 +0000 #4
Also most mma chokes are just that chokes. Which restricts blood to the brain. Although it does restrict breathing too. Fedor uses a strangle with his RNC in which his forearm I flat against the trachea. I was going to say a strangle is worse for long term injury, but now that I think about the choke is probably much worse. Never changed my mind as I was posting a thought before.
DriveBy732010-06-18 00:56:34 +0000 #5
I thought this was a thread about falling out right after hitting the snatch and filling it with the liquid kids.
thelegend2010-06-18 01:34:21 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by DriveBy73

I thought this was a thread about falling out right after hitting the snatch and filling it with the liquid kids.

good stuff driveby!

i was thinking the same tho

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