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ufc fans vs mma fans

bhorrrr2010-06-26 17:14:46 +0000 #1
an interesting exchange popped up involving dogofwar and iron maiden in another thread that's, for the most part, absolutely ridiculous.

there's a divide right now (mostly because of this totally ridiculous on both sides fedor discussion) where one side is more prone to saying they love mma in all its forms and that same side would call the other "ufc nuthuggers." that is, that they just support everything ufc and think that anything outside of it could not be relevant.

i see this issue in a different way. i think it's basically name-calling, but it hints at another issue that no one is really talking about.

that issue: i don't think that there is a ufc fan vs mma fan divide on this board. i think that moooost of the people on this board are mma supporters in all of its forms (it's part of why i joined here). i think that the real issue is that one side would like for mma to happen more like the nfl, nba, and mlb, where all of the real talent is in one pool, and therefore, it makes it easier for everyone to fight each other and for the best to fight the best so we have real and undisputed champions.

the other side (and i may be representing this incorrectly, but this is it as best i can tell) likes things the way they are, and may even like if the talent was divided up even more. they'd like for multiple organizations to have elite fighters and for more events to take place because, after all, the more mma the better. this is more of a boxing type mold.

now, this debate has been framed by the whole "is fedor really (still) the best?" question. one side says "well, we'd know if he'd just fight in the ufc!" and the other says that we can show it by his record so far, whether he's fighting top competition or not. i guess, basically, that we can tell by in-ring performance.

this is a really interesting time for mma. we're definitely leaning more towards an nfl, mlb, nba type thing where every elite fighter fights in one org, but there's a few holdout orgs and about 3 major holdout fighters preventing this.

where do you want mma to go? i lean much more towards the first route i laid out as i can see no major advantages long or short-term to the more boxing-esque plan. as long as the ufc is in good hands (like it is with dana, but may not be after he's gone), then they need to be our major league org where you have to fight to be recognized, and then there could be a minor league org where you work your way up. some would say that's kind of like how it is now, but it's not. not at all.

anyway, i don't expect anyone to reply to this monster post, but if you do and somehow an intelligible debate is started, thanks.


E51502010-06-26 17:18:29 +0000 #2
I want the fighters to form a god damn union and let them decide.
PITTFOX2010-06-26 17:27:37 +0000 #3
The problem is that people take things so personal and feel they gave to pick a side. An example is I am probably one of the very few propel who can say I would favor Fedor over Brock at this point, but I can also Fesor hasn't faced a top fighter in years either. I have no inclination to choose a "side". The peioleni respect most on here are the people who are like that.
BulldogWrestler2010-06-26 17:24:41 +0000 #4
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Originally Posted by PITTFOX

The peioleni respect most on here are the people who are like that.

Did you just faint on your keyboard and wake back up in mid sentence?
E51502010-06-26 17:41:29 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by BulldogWrestler

Did you just faint on your keyboard and wake back up in mid sentence?

That made me giggle like a little school girl.
bhorrrr2010-06-26 18:31:16 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by E5150

I want the fighters to form a god damn union and let them decide.

i've been thinking about that for a while, too. i think in a lot of ways, that'd be a very fair thing for them. on the other hand, greedy nfl, mlb, and nba players' unions (and owners as well) have cause a lot of damage to their respective sports over the years. the sport might be better off the way it's run now.

but maybe not the fighters.

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