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Chris Lytle, future champion?

split decision2011-01-29 08:23:32 +0000 #1
Good article on Chris Lytle from mmajunkie. The guy always comes to fight and has had a respectable MMA career.

If he can defeat Condit, do you think he deserves a title shot?

Embarked on perhaps his final UFC title run, Lytle not content with being "in the mix"

by Steven Marrocco on Jan 26, 2011 at 5:35 pm ET

Sitting behind the mic at the press conference following his win over Matt Serra at UFC 119, Chris Lytle (30-17-5 MMA, 9-9 UFC) heard UFC president Dana White use a phrase he'd heard often to describe fighters on the ramp to a title shot: in the mix.

That designation would boost the spirits of most fighters. It's validation, and a hint that you're getting somewhere in a crowded sport. But Lytle felt uneasy.

"I would tell them if that's the case, then don't even tell me that," Lytle today told MMAjunkie.com ( www.mmajunkie.com: www.mmajunkie.com ).

This could be the 36-year-old Lytle's final run at a UFC title, and he doesn't want to spoil it by getting in his own way.

He'll walk into the cage next month on a four-fight win streak, the longest in an octagon career stretching back to UFC 28. Standing in his way is Carlos Condit (26-5 MMA, 3-1 UFC), a former WEC champion 10 years his junior that's won three straight. The winner could be earmarked for a title eliminator somewhere down the road. Then again, maybe not. That's the purgatory that defines "in the mix."

If the fight, which takes place Feb. 27 at UFC 127 in Sydney, is conservative or just plain sucks, you can bet it will be a while before either of them is considered for a big opportunity. Lytle has seen it happen.

"When they say 'whoever wins this fight gets a title shot' – you ever notice how those fights are always boring? The more people feel like they have to lose, the less exciting they (fight)," Lytle said. "They want to eek out a victory, and I don't ever want to fight like that again."

He's speaking of that pivotal night when he fought Serra a first time more than four years ago in the finale of "The Ultimate Fighter 4." On the line was a shot at welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre. It was an unheard of opportunity for two veterans who had seen ups and downs in their time with the promotion, and they both didn't want to lose. Consequently, they fought safe and delivered a real snoozer of a fight. Worse yet for Lytle, he lost a razor-thin decision and saw Serra go on to beat St-Pierre in one of the biggest upsets in UFC history.

From there on out, Lytle, a full-time firefighter with the Indianapolis Fire Department, decided he would never again do that. In the 11 fights since that fateful night, he hasn't always come out on top. But he's always put on a good show, and he's been handsomely rewarded for it: seven performance bonuses – four of them consecutive – for a total of $310,000 in extra pay.

He said the wind that's filled his sails as of late is a bit of luck and a lot of hard work.

"It's kind of an art form to learn how to be super aggressive and at the same time not be reckless," Lytle said. "You can't just go out there and throw whatever because you're going to get knocked out. It's about having recognition about when you can get hurt and when you can't ... and at the same time not being predictable. It takes many, many hours in the gym trying to perfect that skill."

In an interesting twist it was Lytle's rematch with Serra that landed him in the mix. The two went toe-to-toe for three rounds, and Lytle absolutely dominated. His new attitude is working big time.

But when it comes to the momentum he's built in the most recent 19 months, he wants to see and hear no evil. Just let him get in there.

"I don't want to win the worst fight of my life," he said. "I'd rather fight the best fight of my life and lose."

Lytle anticipates the UFC will market the Feb. 27 fight as "crafty veteran vs. up-and-comer." He would do the same. Although Condit has an extensive combat resume, it's likely he has a lot more time to push for a title.

Lytle does not.

"He's in a good position," Lytle said. "It's his first big run at a title. And the way I see it, this might very well be my last.

"To knock me down another notch and say I've got to start this over again ... man, that's going to be hard for me. It's not just that I'm 36. I've been fighting for 13 years. I don't have time to keep starting over. I just can't keep doing it."

Regardless of what comes of Lytle's time "in the mix," though, he's not fighting because he has few other options. At this point, it's about reaching a personal goal to become champion.

Lytle hopes Condit, too, will put the hype aside when they meet. There's a show to put on. Forget the welterweight ladder for a second and let it fly.

He's put in the work, and it's all gravy from here.


Best80smovieRAD2011-01-29 08:39:31 +0000 #2
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Originally Posted by split decision

If he can defeat Condit, do you think he deserves a title shot?

i like the guy but no

Fitch would tool him

I can see Condit working him as well and I still think had Serra not decided to work towards a fight of the night bonus and instead tried to win, he would of won that fight.

Lytle probably would even have a tough time with most of the top guys. I just dont think beating Matt Brown and a Serra who was not even in the fight should be a good way to judge Lytle. I see Condit getting by him rather easily
Loot2011-01-29 09:09:26 +0000 #3
This is a big fight for Lytle.....If he wins and GSP beats Shields and moves up the 185, the WW division will be ripe for the picking, and Lytle will be positioned nicely near the top of the pecking order.
bhorrrr2011-01-29 09:36:12 +0000 #4
a split loss to marcus davis that probably shouldn't have been even been a split, a win against paul taylor that might not should've been a win, and losses to kos and alves do not a legit title contender make.

he's lost almost every single time he's ever stepped out of the doldrums unless you count serra as a really big win. and even if you do count serra as a big win, there's all the stuff that best80s just said.

a win over condit would be big, but i think he'd need another big win and possibly two before he should be considered for a title shot. even if gsp leaves the division, there'd still be a few people ahead of him.

by that same token, this shouldn't be a contender fight for condit, either. either one needs a big win or two after this fight.
Loot2011-01-29 09:19:32 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by bhorrrr

a win over condit would be big, but i think he'd need another big win and possibly two before he should be considered for a title shot. even if gsp leaves the division, there'd still be a few people ahead of him.

by that same token, this shouldn't be a contender fight for condit, either. either one needs a big win or two after this fight.

Agreed on all accounts. To be clear, I said that a win wolud position himself near the top of the pecking order if GSP moves up. I think "in the mix" is about as high as his position could be described. He's definitely a few big wins away from a title shot.

I'm thinking Lytle may get a bit of a push due to reasons other than his record, such as the fact that he's a fan favorite veteran with a decent highlight reel and marketability. I don't see the UFC being thrilled to have Kos or Fitch wearing a title anytime soon, and Alves is being brought back slowly.

I'm wondering where Penn fits into all of this if he can be Fitch.
bhorrrr2011-01-29 10:21:53 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by Loot

Agreed on all accounts. To be clear, I said that a win wolud position himself near the top of the pecking order if GSP moves up. I think "in the mix" is about as high as his position could be described. He's definitely a few big wins away from a title shot.

I'm thinking Lytle may get a bit of a push due to reasons other than his record, such as the fact that he's a fan favorite veteran with a decent highlight reel and marketability. I don't see the UFC being thrilled to have Kos or Fitch wearing a title anytime soon, and Alves is being brought back slowly.

I'm wondering where Penn fits into all of this if he can be Fitch.

haha, i got what you meant. it wasn't in reply to you or anything. i don't think i had even seen your post yet.

i'm kind of wavering on my post, anyway. not because i think lytle is a legit ww title contender, but because: who would be in a ww title fight if gsp left after the shields fight? the fitch-bj winner is obviously one of the two, but who else? i don't think they'd use shields since he'd presumably have just lost both the fight and all of his luster. fitch just beat alves like, yesterday. hardy just lost. mike pierce (who actually took a round off fitch, iirc) hasn't come back up the rankings yet. kos just lost and won't fight fitch (if he wins), anyway. kampmann just got "beat" by jake ( ). diego looked good against paulo, but the hathaway fight isn't far from memory.

given all of that, if gsp leaves and condit wins, he'd probably be the top guy they could throw at the winner of fitch-bj. if lytle wins, they have no choice but to either go with him or someone who has a very recent loss.

am i having a brainfart and forgetting some obvious candidate? do you think they'd take someone coming off such a recent loss over lytle? because EVERYONE has lost (or will have lost) very recently except the bj-fitch winner and the condit-lytle winner.

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