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Cbear is Bob Arum???

split decision2011-02-19 04:17:36 +0000 #1
Probably not, but they seem to see eye to eye on the UFC's future growth. In a number of threads, Cbear has argued that UFC is likely to stagnate if not decline over the next few years.

Here's what bloodyelbow.com has posted from the old boxing promoter:

"I don't want to demean UFC, because they've done a marvelous job of marketing. But it's the same audience over and over. It's white males, and they have never been able to expand their demographic."

"The Hispanics don't care anything for it. Most African-Americans don't watch it. Hey, this country is becoming more and more Hispanic, and it's growing African-American (in the) audience. So the future success of UFC is limited. The success of boxing is not, because boxing reaches those groups. The only demographic that boxing has lost is the white, young males, period."

I think he underestimates the draw to those other demographics. Guys like Cain are bringing in the Hispanic population, but it doesn't have to be strictly guys watching fighters of their own ethnicity either.

Of course the article also reminds us that Arum also hold Ariel Helwani a couple of years ago that MMA fans are "a bunch of skinhead white guys", and he also said the sport looks like "guys rolling around like homosexuals on the ground".

For the record, I am not a skinhead, but I am sorta pale.


BulldogWrestler2011-02-19 04:21:43 +0000 #2
Bob Arum is too young to be cbear

Also, I think Bob Arum is delusional. Looking at it from a boxing vs UFC standpoint - I don't see boxing reaching out to anyone but the Hispanic demographic. And they're CLINGING to that demographic.

The UFC is expanding slowly, which is what it needs to do.

I also find it pretty funny that Arum says stuff like "All the UFC has is young, white males, period."

What he fails to mention is that that group is EASILY the single largest viewing group.
Wahoo082011-02-19 04:43:51 +0000 #3
No scientific study here, but the bar crowd for UFC events has become much, much more diverse in the last couple of years, at least in my experience. For all the talk about race, if I were Arum, I'd be much more worried about the average age of UFC viewers vs boxing viewers. That is more important than race. It's great if you have a strangle hold over the African-American/Hispanic market, but if they're all middle-aged plus, your long term prospects are pretty dire. I don't know the numbers, but I'd be willing to bet the UFC fan base is significantly younger than boxing's.

Regardless, I don't pay too much attention to the boxing establishment because 1.) I enjoy both sports and 2.) The days of the MMA world having to care what the boxing crowd thinks are over. MMA has too much momentum for Arum and co. to have any effect.
BulldogWrestler2011-02-19 04:42:41 +0000 #4
The thing is - boxing DOESNT have a stranglehold over anything. 1) I'd argue on whether they even have the African American audience or not. 2) They're CLINGING onto the Hispanic (mostly Mexican) audience and that interest is fading VERY fast.
JamieMCFC2011-02-19 05:23:24 +0000 #5
Bob Arum is full of ****. But what do you expect. I know of quite a few black guys that watch the UFC myself included. We also attend local fights.
Jester2011-02-19 06:45:12 +0000 #6
Boxing promoter promotes boxing. How about that.

Reminds me of when a political pundit from one side gets on tv and says "What the other side needs to do is blah blah blah." Yeah, nobody on that side cares what you think or thinks that you want them to use your advice to succeed.

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