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Who "had it coming" more?

E51502011-03-04 09:02:39 +0000 #1
Bisping or Mayhem?

It seems like the same guys defending Bispings actions were the guy's attacking the Diaz's.

What's worse, 2-3 stupid youtube videos before a fight? That don't really touch on anything personal or go farther than what we've seen in the past

Or...

Storming into a cage after a title fight and pushing the champ demanding a rematch?
cheeto1012011-03-04 09:10:34 +0000 #2
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Originally Posted by E5150

Bisping or Mayhem?

It seems like the same guys defending Bispings actions were the guy's attacking the Diaz's.

What's worse, 2-3 stupid youtube videos before a fight? That don't really touch on anything personal or go farther than what we've seen in the past

Or...

Storming into a cage after a title fight and pushing the champ demanding a rematch?

The way youve worded your post, it makes it sound like we are comparing jorge to mayhem, not bisping
Best80smovieRAD2011-03-04 09:13:30 +0000 #3
i defend bisping because i never understood the hate towards him. he isn't exactly a thug though and doesn't have the mentality of Diaz. I dont think we are reading about Bisping fighting in hospitals or the Wolfslair camp coming in and jumping a guy.

I ask anyone not just fighters to say that if pushed to the edge, you wouldn't possibly act in the same manner after a guy has unloaded on you with abuse.

I am not saying spitting is the correct action but Bisping had his buttons pushed, he could of controlled it a bit better but Rivera had it coming and should of been ready to back his words up.

I noticed one thing that should be taken into consideration, Bisping said at one point that his kid was ridiculed at school by other kids due to the videos. I think all parents would agree that when their kid is brought into the picture it becomes a whole new ballgame. I think this is what sent Bisping over the edge, the fact that his family had to deal with this.

I can also see that being where Bisping got it wrong and thought Rivera talked about his family. He probably didn't even watch the videos and instead had to deal with his kids schoolmates seeing it and due to seeing his kid upset, felt his family was involved.
BulldogWrestler2011-03-04 09:41:34 +0000 #4
Quote:

Originally Posted by E5150

Bisping or Mayhem?

It seems like the same guys defending Bispings actions were the guy's attacking the Diaz's.

What's worse, 2-3 stupid youtube videos before a fight? That don't really touch on anything personal or go farther than what we've seen in the past

Or...

Storming into a cage after a title fight and pushing the champ demanding a rematch?

Um...I don't know who "had it coming" more - but in niether case was it right.

Bisping is BY FAR the lesser of two evils. He spit on a trainer who made youtube videos about him before the fight. While it's about as classy as Rosanne at a strip club during happy hour, I think people are making WAY too big a deal about it.

Mayhem went into the cage to hype up a fight (which was previously set up and directed by Coker) and a bunch of idiot wannabe thugs jumped him. Did he have it coming? Probably - he took it a bit too far pushing Shields in the cage. Was it excusable? No. The Diaz brothers (and Melendez to an extent) showed just what complete and total white trash they were when they did that.

So no idea who "had it coming more". In both cases the guys (Mayhem and Rivera's corner) put themselves in positions to have something like that happen to them. I imagine that if I had to choose, Mayhem had it coming to him less than Rivera's corner. I base this only off the fact that Coker was directing him to go into the cage and get into a "showdown staredown" with the champ in order to hype a fight. Mayhem was following orders and got a little carried away when he got to the ring. Nothing he did - however - excused the little band of punks from doing what they were doing.
E51502011-03-04 09:15:29 +0000 #5
Was there ever evidence that Coker actually set that thing up? I remember Mayhem went on the Joe Rogan radio show not long after and said he just saw the cage door was open and took it upon himself.
BulldogWrestler2011-03-04 11:31:36 +0000 #6
Shields let is slip that Coker said there would be a staredown.

I remember hearing that and thinking "Oh this whole thing was set up and fixed from the beginning" (as in, Mayhem knew he was going to get jumped).

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