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The future of women's MMA

counterweight2011-04-17 02:15:11 +0000 #1
This statement by Miesha Tate made me think about an issue that presented itself immediatly after Zuffa purchased Strikeforce:

"I'm still worried about it to be honest," said Tate, who earned her title shot by winning Strikeforce's single-night tournament in August. "I just don't know. ... I think right now we have a home. And I can't do anything more than what I'd do anyway, which is to fight, become the next champion, and represent women's MMA."

(mmajunkie.com)

Dana has a clear position on women's MMA. Saying, as long as the division isn't deep enough there'll be none in the UFC.

Myself, I'm a big fan of women's MMA. Frankly, it's one of the, if not THE main reason for me to watch Strikeforce. I enjoyed nearly every womens bout I've seen so far and I think it would be a big loss, if the UFC won't pick up the division from Strikeforce. There are some highly talented female fighters and I personally think that women's MMA is by far not as incompetitive as it's being made. For sure it will need time to develop, but there's already new talent coming up, like recently Liz Carmouche, who had a very good performance against Marloes Coenen.

But I can very well see the concern about women's MMA not being a part of the UFC. Because I don't see the division getting competitive enough in Dana's eyes.

Do you think women's MMA has a future in UFC?

Do you even care?

What's your take on that?


Vanno2011-04-17 02:30:10 +0000 #2
SF dropping the women's division might actually be a boon for the women's division. This seems counter intuitive at first, but my reasoning is that this move would basically be a huge talent pool acquisition opportunity for Bellator, which is much more inclined towards heterodox approaches to the MMA market. In other words, Bellator could scoop up some more great fighters to add to their already excellent women's division. And, since Bellator is always looking for ways to differentiate itself from UFC/Strikeforce, they would be more inclined to feature the division.
clamcakes2011-04-17 03:01:32 +0000 #3
As long as they are fighting somewhere I'll be happy. Sometimes I just need a break from all the lnp and point-fighting that goes on in the men's divisions.
BulldogWrestler2011-04-17 03:31:51 +0000 #4
I agree with Dana on this.

There simply isn't enough talented fighters to cover various women's weight classes.

Even the King of all of the women (Cyborg) is sloppy during her fights and would be ridiculed as a fighter if she were a man. (Well, not IF - but you know what I mean)
telerion2011-04-17 03:47:28 +0000 #5
First, I enjoy women's mma. I'm almost always entertained by their bouts. They just seem to have a lot of heart (although nearly all of them still have poor technique compared to their male counterparts).

I wonder though as the UFC continues to grow in the public eye, might dumping all the female fighters turn into a political headache for Zuffa? Given how much they work to change their public image from barbaric, chauvanistic, moron brawlers, doesn't saying "Women cannot fight for us anymore" risk appearing discriminatory, even if that conclusion is unmerited?

And before anyone points to the NFL or NBA, I think the public will view this differently because women are already fighting for Zuffa.

It's a framing problem.
Vanno2011-04-17 03:57:02 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by BulldogWrestler

I agree with Dana on this.

There simply isn't enough talented fighters to cover various women's weight classes.

Even the King of all of the women (Cyborg) is sloppy during her fights and would be ridiculed as a fighter if she were a man. (Well, not IF - but you know what I mean)

Women also don't have huge variances in weight like men do though, and you really only need 3 classes or so (probably just the 115 to 145 classes) to consistently showcase women. Moreover, if one never showcases women's MMA, the talent pool isn't going to organically appear.

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Originally Posted by telerion

First, I enjoy women's mma. I'm almost always entertained by their bouts. They just seem to have a lot of heart (although nearly all of them still have poor technique compared to their male counterparts).

I wonder though as the UFC continues to grow in the public eye, might dumping all the female fighters turn into a political headache for Zuffa? Given how much they work to change their public image from barbaric, chauvanistic, moron brawlers, doesn't saying "Women cannot fight for us anymore" risk appearing discriminatory, even if that conclusion is unmerited?

And before anyone points to the NFL or NBA, I think the public will view this differently because women are already fighting for Zuffa.

It's a framing problem.

That's an excellent angle, that I hadn't really considered. The last thing Zuffa needs is a visit from NOW, or the ACLU, or some feminist group. Those folks can be pernicious, mendacious, and most importantly tenacious.

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