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Chuck Wolfe: "Don't leave it in the hands of the judges"

Tallica19812011-04-23 18:29:46 +0000 #1
I hate the phrase when Dana says it, but now it is being said by someone that really makes my blood boil: a judge!

Chuck Wolfe is the jude who scored the Warren/Galvao fight 30-27 in favor of Warren. He defended his decision:

www.mmafighting.com/...core-for-joe-warren/

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Bellator featherweight champion Joe Warren won a controversial unanimous decision over Marcos Galvao on Saturday night in Yuma, Arizona, with all three judges seeing the fight differently than nearly every member of the MMA media saw it.

Particularly surprising about the decision was that judge Chuck Wolfe scored the bout 30-27 for Warren: Not only did Wolfe score the first and third rounds for Warren, as did his fellow judges, but Wolfe also gave Warren the second round, even though almost everyone else watching thought that round was decidedly Galvao's.

Although Wolfe declined to go into a detailed blow-by-blow account of the second round, he defended his scorecard and his decision, saying on Tuesday morning that he thought all three rounds in the fight were close, and that in close rounds, something relatively minor can be the difference in a 10-9 score.

"It could be one takedown different, it could be one punch different, it could be one kick different, it could be one attempted submission different," Wolfe said.

Wolfe said he wasn't aware that his scoring of the fight had caused a controversy in the MMA community, and he said that as a judge he can't be concerned about how fans or the media view his decisions. He also said that his background as a professional kickboxer and his knowledge of MMA gives him insight that surpasses that of the average fan watching at home.

"I've judged and refereed since the beginning of the sport, I've been head official for over 600 different bouts," Wolfe said. "If you want to question my credentials, I think I have way more than anyone out there to be qualified to judge. I know fans get disappointed, but I don't think you're going to have Joe Warren fans complain about how the decision went."

Wolfe acknowledged that Galvao landed some significant strikes in the fight, but he said nothing Galvao did was enough to justify giving him any of the three rounds.

"Did he damage Warren in that fight? Yeah, he did, for a short period of time," Wolfe said. "I remember the bout very clearly. When they are close rounds there's one thing or maybe two things that might put someone ahead. ... You can grade it 10-10 but you might as well not be there if you're not going to score someone to win the round."

Bellator promoter Bjorn Rebney said after the fight that he found Wolfe's 30-27 score for Warren hard to understand, but the judges work independently of the promoters. Bellator 41 took place at a resort owned by the Cocopah Indian Tribe, and Wolfe and the other judges were hired by the Potawatomi Athletic Commission. Wolfe noted that the tribal commission follows the standard procedures employed by state athletic commissions, including telling the judges to watch the fights with their naked eyes. Judges are not provided with TV monitors, which means they're seeing the fight from a different vantage point than the fans at home.

"There are a lot of things that a fan will cheer about outside the cage, but each judge has a different viewpoint and a different angle," Wolfe said. "Unfortunately, judges don't have a replay, don't have a rewind, they just have to judge by what they see."

Ultimately, Wolfe said, if Galvao isn't happy with the decision he should look in the mirror, not at the judges.

"He had three rounds to take Warren out if he really wanted to beat him -- he had three rounds to dominate Warren, as well as Warren had three rounds to dominate him," Wolfe said. "It's up to the fighter. ... Don't leave it in the hands of the judges, especially when it's a close fight."


BulldogWrestler2011-04-23 18:35:04 +0000 #2
Well, what the guy says is true but he very obviously ****ed his scoring up.

I'm not going to say he was corrupt or anything, but he's just defending his mistake by not admitting it.
Onion2011-04-23 19:11:07 +0000 #3
Yeah, he ****ed up. There is no way anyone could have consciously scored the 2nd round for Warren.
Jackie2011-04-23 18:39:01 +0000 #4
Sadly, what he says is completely true...but he's just dodging any blame for not really doing his job.

I almost wish that when their scores come out of left center field like that that they (the judges) would require some reevaluation by the committee/sanction. But, of course, I have no earthly idea how that could even happen.
Tallica19812011-04-23 18:53:20 +0000 #5
Some of what he says is true. The only thing I really agree with is they don't get the benefit of replay and have to judge based on their perspective. This is why I have felt judges should have monitors. I think this would make a bigger impact than a change in the criteria.

If a round is a 10-10 round, it should be scored as such. I think they are rare, about as often as a 10-8, but have a place. Their job is to score a round accuately, not think a round is 10-10 and then flip a coin.

The phrase "Don't leave it in the hands of the judges" at it's root is meant to imply that judges are often times incompetant and make bade decisions. For a judge to use that after a poor call should have some sort of disciplinary repercussions.
TheIcon2011-04-23 20:21:04 +0000 #6
I agree with the monitors. Id like to see that for them as well.

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