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#1 Middleweight in the World

Tony Montana2011-08-20 18:16:29 +0000 #1
There's so much debate on this so let's put it to a vote.

Please say who you voted for and provide your reasoning.
Tony Montana2011-08-20 18:21:54 +0000 #2
Personally, I don't even understand what the debate is here. Rich has beaten:

Evan Tanner x 2

Ken Shamrock

Curtis Stout

Jorge Rivera

Edwin Dewees

Antony Rea

Marvin Eastman

Yan Pellerin

Travis Fulton

He's lost to Ryoto Machida who he fought at HW (Ryoto's 215lbs).

Rich is 19-1 with NO DECISIONS!!!!!!!!

In every single fight I've ever seen of his (and I've seen all the ones I listed above) he has DOMINATED.

That's why I think Franklin is by far the best MW in the world.
robbypark2011-08-20 18:29:38 +0000 #3
Your list does nothing but deter your argument since that list of wins is a joke. Most of those guys are B-level fighters and some of them are KOTC level guys who have never been nor belong on the big show.

Henderson has beaten far more top fighters and is far more proven than Rich is. Out of his 20 fights, Rich has yet to beat a top fighter who's last name isn't Tanner. On top of that he's faced only one great striker and got his ass KO'd in humiliation fashion against a guy who was actually his same size.

Take a look at the guys Hendo has beaten and faced and then take a look at what Rich has done. In fact, take a look at both fighter's recent activity.

This one goes to Dan or Busta, no contest.
BigFilth2011-08-20 19:10:14 +0000 #4
Rich gets my vote. Henderson didn't impress me against Busta, he gassed early and didn't look like the best MW.
peter-griffin2011-08-20 19:26:36 +0000 #5
here's dan record

Win Murilo Bustamante Decision (Split) 5:00

Win Akihiro Gono KO (Punch)

Win Ryo Chonan KO 9/25/2005 1 0:22

Loss Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Submission

Win Yuki Kondo Decision (Split)

Win Kazuhiro Nakamura TKO

Win Murilo Bustamante KO

Win Shungo Oyama TKO

Loss Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Submission

Loss Ricardo Arona Decision

Win Murilo Rua Decision

Win Akira Shoji TKO

Win Renzo Gracie KO (Punch)

Loss Wanderlei Silva Decision

Win Renato Sobral Decision

Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision

Win Gilbert Yvel Decision

Win Hiromitsu Kanehara Decision

Win Bakouri Gogitidze Submission

Win Carlos Newton Decision

Win Allan Goes Decision

Win Eric Smith TKO

Win Crezio de Souza TKO

here's rich franklin record

Win Nathan Quarry KO

Win Evan Tanner TKO

Win Ken Shamrock TKO

Win Curtis Stout Submission

Win Jorge Rivera Submission

Win Ralph Dilon Submission

Win Leo Sylvest Submission

Loss Ryoto Machida TKO

Win Edwin Dewees TKO

Win Roberto Ramirez KO

Win Evan Tanner TKO

Win Antony Rea TKO

Win Yan Pellerin Submission

Win Marvin Eastman Submission

Win Dennis Reed Submission

Win Chris Seifert Submission

Win Travis Fulton TKO

NC Aaron Brink No Contest

Win Dennis Reed Submission

Win Gary Myers KO

Win Rob Smith TKO

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