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Shoguns manager wants him to fight in December, wants Tito Ortiz

Best80smovieRAD2011-09-09 10:17:08 +0000 #1


Mauricio Rua made a successful return to the Octagon this past Aug. 27, 2011, at UFC 134 in Brazil by knocking out former Light Heavyweight Champion Forrest Griffin in the very first round.

And now he's got his sights set on... Tito Ortiz?

Indeed, the former 205-pound king apparently desires a contest against "The Bad Boy" before he sets sail for Huntington Beach ... for good.

"Shogun" never did get to square off against Randy Couture before he left the sport, so now his team is making it clear they would like to get their turn against Ortiz before he does the same.

At least, this is what his manager and mouthpiece, Eduardo Alonso, tells Tatame:


"I've been hearing some rumors, but until now there's nothing concrete about UFC. If it depends only on my plannings, he'd fight on December 31st, it'd be great. I'd really like him to fight Tito Ortiz since he's an icon of the sport and will soon retire. He didn't have the chance to fight (Randy) Couture, something Lyoto had the luck and credits to do, but I'd like to see this fight. It came from Tito himself, who challenged him, but we're realistic. I know it's not much likely, so it's only left for us to wait. Everybody knows Shogun doesn't pick his opponents, so we're opened to discussion. To me, the date (December 31st) is more important than the opponent."

Unlikely match-up is unlikely.

Ortiz, who staved off retirement with a stunning first round submission victory over Ryan Bader at UFC 132 on July 2, made a quick turnaround and fought Rashad Evans just over a month later at UFC 133 on Aug. 6.

He lost that fight and wasn't altogether competitive in the process.

As noted previously, Rua is coming off a complete drubbing of Griffin. While matching up the two former champions is certainly a possibility, it clearly doesn't make sense in the grand scheme of the light heavyweight division.

Then again, current division champion Jon Jones is booked to battle Quinton Jackson with the winner of that bout taking on "Suga" Rashad. "Shogun" will need something to do in the meantime.

But is a fight against Ortiz the smart play? Anyone care to see this fight before we no longer have the chance?

Sound off, Maniacs.

DriveBy732011-09-09 10:28:56 +0000 #2
Meh I can see the reason for this one, but if Titty actually pulled off a victory this would be worse (IMHO) than when he lost to Forrest.

I'd like to see him go all psycho on Tito and make his head bounce off of the mat....I wonder how many time that head would bounce before finally stopping.
Str8Ryt2011-09-09 11:02:59 +0000 #3
Of course I would buy the ppv but this fight would be pointless other than seeing Tito get smashed out quickly.
LiveinTokyo2011-09-09 11:21:18 +0000 #4
Pretty bad match-up for Tito - I can't see how he could possibly win (apart from at the bank - that man is on the best contract ever - shame that he has to spend it all on an ex porn star).
Roundhouse2011-09-09 11:05:54 +0000 #5
I realize it's likely Shogun eats Tito for lunch, but, it's not a terrible matchup for Tito. Tito is larger, has the better wrestling, and is skilled enough to avoid Shogun's submission attemts.

Most of Tito's losses have been against guys able to counter his wrestling with good takedown defense. Shogun really hasn't shown terrific takedown defense. Not saying he'd win, but there is a chance he could pull it off.
ATroms2011-09-09 12:07:41 +0000 #6
On the one hand... You think Rua has everything that it takes to brutally stop a guy like Tito. Especially if he's dumb enough to engage in any kind of standup exchanges with him. Shogun is Tito's exact opposite in regards to how dynamic the two are in comparison. The ways in which Rua can hurt you are quite literally endless. He's proved that over and over again through the years.

On the other hand... You can make the arguement that Tito could end up being a total nightmare for Shogun, should this fight go down. Not only is Rua's takedown defense terrible, it is almost entirely non existant. I think back to an interview he (Rua) did on one of the PRIDE dvds i own... He actually admits openly that he really doesnt mind being put on his back. Nor does he really do much to prevent it, because he says it allows him to use a completely different arsenal of weapons that he possesses. Think back to his fights against HammerHouse vets like Randleman and Coleman for concrete proof.

I still think Rua stops Tito via TKO... But hed really have to abandon alot of his old ways. His present day training even reveals that hes abandoned alot of his recklessness that he showed in PRIDE even in the standup. But instincts are tough to kick. Tito has everything it takes to wear down Rua to a dominant unam decision win. But i guess at some point, Shogun needs to go up against a pure wrestler and show that he has evolved, and is able to defend a powerful shot like Tito's. If i had to choose though... I still like a Shogun vs Rogerio II over this proposed matchup against Tito



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