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Dana wants to do a TUF world cup in the future

Tallica19812011-11-06 00:27:39 +0000 #1
Dana said in the UFC on FOX Conference call today that his goal for TUF was to have serveral countries hosting a TUF competition at the same time and have the winners face off in a World Cup style TUF tournament.

Sounds kinda cool. I loved the thought of fighting for country. I'd watch.
BulldogWrestler2011-11-06 00:43:59 +0000 #2
I'd love to see it - but it would end up being an extremely watered down talent pool outside of the US.

I assume that he would be wanting to do 8 countries (or so) all having competitors at a weight class do a TUF. Then the winners would fight each other in a tournament style thing?

What you would end up with is 1 or 2 fighters in each country (outside the US) who are "shoe ins" to win and they'll end up losing to the US guy anyway unless they're elite fighters.
LordZardoz2011-11-06 00:40:15 +0000 #3
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Originally Posted by BulldogWrestler

I'd love to see it - but it would end up being an extremely watered down talent pool outside of the US.

I assume that he would be wanting to do 8 countries (or so) all having competitors at a weight class do a TUF. Then the winners would fight each other in a tournament style thing?

What you would end up with is 1 or 2 fighters in each country (outside the US) who are "shoe ins" to win and they'll end up losing to the US guy anyway unless they're elite fighters.

A TUF world cup would be great. I think that how the fighters are selected for the show will play a big part in how the rankings go. If you make it appealing to established veterans, than the american fighters will dominate. If you go purely with prospects that have not fought at a high level though, it would probably break down like this:

Elite level fighters:

United States

Brazil (close or at least competitive 2nd place)

Japan (distant third at anything bigger than Featherweight, competitive 3rd otherwise).

Typical TUF level of experience:

United States

Japan (very competitive 2nd place)

Brazil (competitive 3rd).

The MMA scene in Japan has fallen pretty goddamn far, but they do have a large number of active fighters who are able to fight regularly. They also have a better established amateur scene. At the 'A' level of MMA, Japan has not been competitive. But if you were to stock an event with journeyman and amateur level fighters, I think Japan does better than expected.

I do not think they would dominate but I do think they would get into the 2nd and maybe 3rd round of the tournament.

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JC-Freakhead2011-11-06 01:02:09 +0000 #4
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Originally Posted by BulldogWrestler

I'd love to see it - but it would end up being an extremely watered down talent pool outside of the US.

I assume that he would be wanting to do 8 countries (or so) all having competitors at a weight class do a TUF. Then the winners would fight each other in a tournament style thing?

What you would end up with is 1 or 2 fighters in each country (outside the US) who are "shoe ins" to win and they'll end up losing to the US guy anyway unless they're elite fighters.

Doesn't it seem like the talent pool IN the US has been somewhat depleted with all these seasons of TUF? The standard isn't all that high anymore. I'm sure there are some fighters in other countries who could give a US TUF 14 champion a good fight, even though, as you said, the road to that fight might be somewhat easy.

I like this idea. I've been behind a more international TUF for a long time.

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