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Top 25 All Time Career MMA Fighter Rankings (PbP & Weightclass)(As of Oct 30th, 2011)

BruceLee2011-11-06 04:35:51 +0000 #1
Top 25 All Time Career MMA Fighter Rankings (PbP & Weightclass)(As of Oct 30th, 2011)

Rankings Methodology

www.mmatimeline.com/MethodologyFrames.html

Pound 4 Pound Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMAFightersFrames.html

Heavyweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMAHWFrames.html

Light Heavyweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMALHWFrames.html

Middleweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMAMWFrames.html

Welterweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMAWWFrames.html

Lightweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMALWFrames.html

Featherweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMAFWFrames.html

Bantamweight Rankings

www.mmatimeline.com/MMABWFrames.html
Grapehead2011-11-06 04:44:32 +0000 #2
I read as far as Fedor and closed the window.
OnyxShadow2011-11-06 05:23:03 +0000 #3
I think the idea of having a mathematical formula figure this sorta thing is a cool idea. Considering how math usually fares at determining rankings I think that objectively the results of this are rather good. Without knowing the exact formula, I can see a few moderate issues.

1) Losses aren't counting against scores enough (or at all).

2) The time period doesn't have any weight (a win at UFC 1 isn't as impressive as a win at UFC 137).

3) Wins are not valued based on the value of the opponent (Wins in PRIDE against cans count as much as wins in PRIDE against other top opponents).

4) Modern UFC title wins/defenses don't seem to have a lot of weight.

5) Since not all fighters even had the opportunity to be in tournaments, I wouldn't put any additional weight on them.

Some names expose the above gaps: Marius Zaromskis, Keita Nakamura, Rickson Gracie, KJ Noons, etc. Mostly, though, its more a problem of relative ranking.

Anyway, its an interesting thing to look at and fun to discuss.
wgrapple2011-11-06 05:01:06 +0000 #4
Great idea Bruce but it just doesn't work IMO.

Mark Coleman on a P4P all time list? Who would agree with something like that?
BruceLee2011-11-06 06:24:07 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by wgrapple

Great idea Bruce but it just doesn't work IMO.

Mark Coleman on a P4P all time list? Who would agree with something like that?

I think many educated fans would.

As much as I dislike Mark Colecan he won two UFC tournaments (UFC 10 and UFC 11), won the first UFC HW title belt and won the 2000 Pride Grand Prix. Who else comes close to matching that. Not many.

I think there is always a natural bias to forget (or not even having seen or know) the accomplishments of older fighters in favor of the new "It" fighter. But give i 5-10 years and those new "It" fighters will be laughed at as overrated and having accomplished nothing.
wgrapple2011-11-06 06:23:42 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by BruceLee

I think many educated fans would.

As much as I dislike Mark Colecan he won two UFC tournaments (UFC 10 and UFC 11), won the first UFC HW title belt and won the 2000 Pride Grand Prix. Who else comes close to matching that. Not many.

I think there is always a natural bias to forget (or not even having seen or know) the accomplishments of older fighters in favor of the new "It" fighter. But give i 5-10 years and those new "It" fighters will be laughed at as overrated and having accomplished nothing.

I highly disagree man, educated fans of the sport understand that the competition has multiplied 100x in the 10 years from 1997 to 2007.

If you want your rankings to be taken seriously you can't count BS things like the early UFC and Pride tournament titles in comparison to being a reigning UFC champ in recent history.

Being one of the first big named fighters doesn't mean you are one of the all-time best. And it's even a bigger joke to have him on P4P because most of his wins consisted of beating up smaller guys.

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