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Running/Waking/Resting . . . Week of September 28, 2008

michelem2010-05-01 15:27:39 +0000 #1
Sounds like some of you are experiencing revamping of your running goals. It was really good for me to hear/read that you are listening to your bodies and taking care of yourselves. I'm sure it is disappointing, but I'm trying to think of this in terms of longevity rather than instant gratification.

I had a run like that today. I was pretty disappointed in myself, but knew if I pushed harder I'd hurt myself -- probably by passing out with heat exhaustion. Today was my first 20-miler in prep for the December California Int'l Marathon. Yesterday was in the upper 90's and the forecast was for more of the same today (ridiculous, as it was in the low to mid-80's until the first day of Fall, and then WHAM! Heat, heat, and more heat. Thank God I don't live in the Phoenix area anymore!). So, I planned to leave as soon as the sun rose at 7am. Didn't happen as I had to poop twice between 7 and 7:15am.

Got out the door at about 7:15am and my ipod popped off my Nathan hydration waist pack FOUR times in the first 15minutes or so! Also, had to stop at two major intersections, but I think it was only for 2 minutes or so each. Thankfully the iPod stayed put the rest of the way. Made it past the potties where I had to stop last weekend, so I count it as a victory that I went further than ever before without having to stop and use the facilities. Tacked on the extra two miles at around the 1/4-way point. And then stopped for about 30 secs. tops to fill one of my water bottles.

Got to about 1/2 way and had to use the potties. Pooped blood.

This happened last year and I went through a bunch of tests only to be told that it was ischemic something-or-other (don't feel like looking it up right now) -- but, basically a thing common to long-distance runners, particularly when running in heat and not well-hydrated. Got going again and luckily there were more potties very shortly thereafter 'cause I had to do the same thing again.

After that, it was all downhill (figuratively -- continued rolling terrain on the trail and then all uphill for the last 3.5 miles of surface streets to home). No more water fountains for the last 1/2 of the run (really stupid that there are about 3 or 4 water fountains within a 1-2 mile stretch on that trail and then NOTHING the rest of the way).

So, I tried to ration my remaining water and Accelerade, but it was getting hotter and hotter. I stopped at some more potties and pooped AGAIN when I had about 4 miles left 'til home, but there were no water fountains there. By about 2 miles from home and I was completely out of fluids. I ended up having to alternate walking and running the last uphill 3.5 miles and actually looked forward to stopping at the major intersections.

My time was PATHETIC. Left at 7:15am and didn't get home 'til 11am, for only a 20 miler! How do I go from 16.2 miles in 2.5 hrs. (with one short water bottle stop, a fall, and about a mile of uphill walking???) to 20 miles in 3.75 hrs.??? I'm going to blame it on: 1) iPod falling off; 2)waiting at intersections; 3) multiple potty stops; and 3) heat.

So, I made it home in one piece, but only by walking and going much slower than I wanted. But, I kept reminding myself of what you guys are doing -- listening to your bodies and taking care of yourselves! So, THANK YOU.

Tomorrow night I have an appt. with a massage therapist who is supposed to specialize in "diagnosing" muscle problems and working on them (not really "diagnosing," since she's not a doctor or physical therapist). Next weekend drops back down in mileage a bit and it's SUPPOSED to be back down in the 80's for the high. Also, the route I'm going to run is much more shaded (it's the hilly route I did a few weeks back when I fell). The Buffalo Chips (semi-local running group) training coach is supposed to be back and I plan to meet with him during/after the run.

I look forward to hearing how everyone does this week. Continue to TAKE CARE limewave and kelownagirl!

P.S. Thanks for posting your shoes, tattiefritter! Fun!

michelem2010-05-01 15:40:37 +0000 #2
Whoops! Meant to title this: Running, WALKING, Resting . . . not waking! DUH!
kacie tri-ing2010-05-01 15:56:57 +0000 #3
I'm so sorry your 20 miler was rough! How many times do you do 20 in your training plan? Mine is twice, and I am already nervous about them. How much water do you carry on the belt?

Take today to rest and recover.

I am going to see a massage therapist this week too. You are right that they are not doctors, but sometimes they work so much more intimatly with muscles that I think they understand our pain better!

Good luck! Rest and recover!
Kimmyt2010-05-01 16:46:14 +0000 #4
Wow, michellem, that sounds like one brutal long run! And here I was proud of myself for finishing a measly almost 2 mile run in the torrential downpours of Sunday...

Anyone know any tricks for quickly drying out soaked sneakers? I probably shouldn't put them in the dryer...

kacie tri-ing2010-05-01 17:14:24 +0000 #5
I always fill mine with crupled up newspaper. Stuff them from the toe to the heel. After a few hours, take it out and put in more. It usually works!
teigyr2010-05-01 17:53:18 +0000 #6
I use these things after I run, they appear to work for wet shoes too:

Newspaper would be cheaper though

I'm sorry about your long run, michelem. Mine was Saturday (about 16.5-17 miles) and not as much went wrong but enough stuff did to be annoying. The seam on my tights ripped. I heard CW-X will do that after enough time but why at mile 2 into a long run? It was cool at home and hot where I ended up and I hadn't brought any more sunscreen. I also got lost. It took me 3 hrs 10 minutes which should've been shorter but then again I covered a variety of terrain and I had quite a few water stops.

Yesterday I ran a total of ten miles, 5 in the a.m. and 5 in the p.m. We then went to the running store to get a new run bra (having major chafing issues!), a run shirt, and new run tights. Why? Because the marathon in next week and everything is breaking down!!! I suppose I'm glad it all happened now and not next weekend. This will be a nice and relaxing taper type week. I still have a huge raw spot from the tights ripping. I suppose this is building tons of character
limewave2010-05-01 16:47:24 +0000 #7
Michelem--way to tough it out. Sorry it didn't go the way you wanted it to, every runner has a bad day.

I never made my long (6-7 mile) run on Sunday. Saturday I mountain biked about 15 miles and then practiced orienteering for 2-3 hours. By Sunday I was wiped out.

My plan was to get up at 5 AM to run, but that didn't happen either. Tomorrow I will get back on track and probably do a 4-5 mile run. I'm looking forward to it. We'll have cooler temperatures so it will be easier on my body.
michelem2010-05-01 16:35:02 +0000 #8
Hi kacie tri-ing,

My plan actually calls for five 20-milers, but I'm cutting that down to four. I'm using FIRST (Furman Institute of Running and Scientific Training) Marathon Training Program. The long runs go like this (my adaptations in paren -- I started two weeks late):


16: 13 miles (13.15 done)

15: 15 miles (16.1 done)

14: 17 miles (18 done)

13: 20 miles (20 done)

12: 18 miles (16-18 planned)

11: 20 miles (20 planned)

10: 13 miles (DELETE)

9: 18 miles (18 planned -- maybe less)

8: 20 miles (DELETE)

7: 15 miles (1/2 marathon race planned)

6: 20 miles (20 planned)

5: 15 miles (15 planned)

4: 20 miles (20 planned)

3: 13 miles (13 planned)

2: 8-10 miles (8-10 planned)


This may get re-vamped when I meet with the training coach next weekend. I'm finding that the weekday tempo and speedwork pacing is really hard on me (I've never done this before).

I have the four-bottle Nathan and each bottle holds 10 oz. I fill two with water and two with Accelerade. Over 15 miles and I've been going through all four bottles, plus a one or two re-filled bottles. Yesterday I could easily have done with at least two more. This is new for me, because when I was running for an hour or so I wouldn't take any fluids with me. Now it is a necessity!

Good luck to you!



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