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Prascina2010-07-05 02:45:54 +0000 #1
What is Yoga practice?Asana Practice?Asanas are in yoga?or yoga is asana?
Pandara2010-07-05 03:00:53 +0000 #2
Hi Prascina,

So what is your question exactly? Perhaps you can be more specific.
Prascina2010-07-05 03:01:57 +0000 #3
Yoga means union ? Yoga is a spiritual culture.. a spiritual tradition..so was wondering!Asanas are in yoga?
Pandara2010-07-05 03:06:14 +0000 #4
Yoga is a spiritual culture.. a spiritual tradition..so was wondering!

Hi Prascina,

Sorry, but I still find your question bit vague.

Anyway I will try to answer two aspects which you mentioned in your post. The first is about yoga being a spiritual tradition. In India yoga might have strong connections to being part of a spiritual tradition, but it is not a spiritual tradition per se.

Yoga as a spiritual culture? I am not so sure about it. Culture denotes something which is inherent to a specific race or group of people. I think yoga is above a human construct such as culture. Yoga is a simple path which leads ultimately to:Restoring the mind to peace and tranquility,
Alleviation of the stress and anxiety of modern living and,
Ultimately to transcending the perceived limitations of the body in order to set the mind free.
I see you write from India, in the West yoga has evolved somehow different to I think how it is done and perceived in its country of origin.

About yoga means union? Are you telling us or are you asking if this is so?

Pascina, I understand English, like for so many of us, is not your first language, but perhaps you can explain your questions a bit more. I am also a second language speaker and I must say I find your questions confusing as to their meaning.

Hope this makes sense for you.
Prascina2010-07-05 03:29:32 +0000 #5
Hi Pandara,

At the moment I'm in India studying yoga ..here where I'm ,in an ashram we were discussing the traditions and culture of yoga ,Aarsha samskra..the four ashrams of human life span..and the purusarthas..and of how to combine these with the different limbs of ashtanga.

After transcending the mind limits...what?
InnerAthlete2010-07-05 04:29:33 +0000 #6
Based on your location and circumstances, why are you posing the question here? Shouldn't this be asked of your peers or teachers? Perhaps you already have and did not fancy their answer.

Please do not confuse the definition of the word Yoga (which is yoke) with the definition of Yoga itself. They may or may not be synonymous.
Prascina2010-07-05 04:41:13 +0000 #7
Yoga comes from the word 'Yuj'.Yoga simply means union but at deeper levels of practice may be yoke..do you mean the core. Yogam also means where the boundary of duality dissolves into the voidness of non-duality.

"Please do not confuse the definition of the word Yoga" yes that's what! why is it nowadays confused with the word asana?That's my simple question!
Hubert2010-07-05 04:57:51 +0000 #8
So that the donkeys may wonder ...

You asked for it.
Pandara2010-07-05 05:10:54 +0000 #9
Yoga is not confused with the word asana, it is how it has evolved in the West and nothing wrong with that.

I really feel stupid with this post because Prascina I still don't get what you are actually asking of us, please can somebody explain, do I miss something here?
Prascina2010-07-05 03:39:44 +0000 #10
'Yoga is not confused with the word asana, it is how it has evolved in the West and nothing wrong with that.'

Pandara,there is nothing wrong!a tear drop can form oceans! a grain of sand can form a mountain! a petal can evolve into a flower!

I asked such simple questions:

what is yoga practice?

what is asana practice?

what does the word yoga means?

Asanas are in yoga?

To know more on yoga people do visit forums and a simple healthy discussion that was all I asked for.

to see all

! Yogis afterall !!

how can donkey discuss yoga, right Hubert?
Hubert2010-07-05 05:55:35 +0000 #11
Right, Prascina !

Your questions make sense, although are a permanent subject for discussion and members who have a longer history here (me) might neglect their importance.

So, to be more sober, I think that what is so often overlooked is yama and niyama. As I learnt, both form masters and my own personal experience, yama and niyama is the base of this pyramid, what yoga is. I use the pyramid image as it is fitting my idea ... it is the widest on it's base.

Yoga is popular in the west because it has an external side, the physical one, asana, and to a mostly extroverted culture, this ascpect is immediatly touchable.

But asana alone is like building a pyramid without foundation ... it cannot last. It migth bring temporary relief, fitness, health, or just the fact of being percieved trendy.

The picture I paint is not this grim, though, as the west and especially America has a wide range of spiritual traditions present, and yoga might complement these well. Yama and niyama are lose enough that a christian, a buddhist, even an atheist might find ways to apply them in his/her own manner. This makes this aspect more personal, and because of that, far less visible.
Pandara2010-07-05 05:47:12 +0000 #12
Yes and donkeys also do yoga these days.

Prascina, I agree by all means - "To know more on yoga people do visit forums and a simple healthy discussion that was all I (you) asked for." You are right and the point I was trying to make is the following: Prascina I am an English second language speaker and user and a poorly phrased question such as: "Asana Practice?Asanas are in yoga?" just doesn't help "simple healthy discussion" as there are a lot of people on this forum, including me, whose command of English may not be good enough to grasp what you actually trying to ask or demand from us (me).

I think to invite "simple healthy discussion" it will help if you formulate your questions with proper markers such as What, Why, etc, which denotes to me as a second language user that you ask a question and what your expect of me in my answer. Perhaps re-phrase your statements with question marks in such a way to reflect an answer which "invites healthy discussion".

Or is this simply a question of the donkey can't see the carrot in front of him/her?
justwannabe2010-07-05 05:49:31 +0000 #13
yoga seems to mean union

typically people go with the description of eight limbs of yoga,

they are, in no particular order, Asanas Dharana Dhyana Niyama

Pranayama Pratyahara Samadhi Yama

it seems everything we do in life is under these 8 limbs.

asanas is one of those limbs relating to phsyical posture, an asana practice would be a practice of posture.

What is Yoga practice?

yoga practice, practicing the 8 limbs of yoga

Asana Practice?

asana practice, practicing your posture, through either one or a series of postures

Asanas are in yoga?

asana is only one limb of yoga, asanas fall under the umbrela of yoga

Ideally you would have union when in asanas, so yes, asanas are yoga, yoga is asanas so if one wants to play a word game they can say that asana is yoga, yoga is asana.

or yoga is asana?

as a straighforward answer, no

but again, someone can play word games with you and trap you in that question

asanas yoga or yoga asanas

everything is yoga but since the mind seperates ourselves we are not in the union, but then we can never be out of the union or something like that.
Prascina2010-07-05 04:51:19 +0000 #14
Isn't it that as long as the body exists .. turbulent or calm,the mind is there in the strongest or mildest form of EGO?

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