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moth2010-07-04 19:32:21 +0000 #1
Hello all...question time....

I know there are people on this forum from other countries and I don't want to assume everybody is aware of the historic election happening here in the US. If not, I'll just say that one candidate has managed to energize and excite a huge portion of voters primarily, I think, by his rhetorical skills and his (vague but effective) promise of "change." But the inevitable backlash is beginning and people are beginning to express their concerns or suspicions about him by writing off this "phenomenon" as "cult-like" or "Messianic." Like all the other voters, I've been swept away by him, too but since this is not my usual behavior, my reaction bothers me a bit. I know there are good leaders in the world - whether it's political, spiritual, religious (or any other kind) that use language and words to inspire or heal or to do good. On the other hand, there are also bad leaders like dictators, religious fanatics and scam artists, etc. who use language and words that sound good on the surface, but are really used to manipulate. All of this is obvious, but here's what I'm wondering...

Why do some people fall under the spell of a bad leader and other people don't? How do you know if what you start to believe in or decide to put your faith into, is the real thing or even good for you? When you start learning and allowing yourself to open up, don't you naturally start to trust and accept things more? If so, then wouldn't you become more vulnerable to this type of manipulation? Or said another way, don't you need to hold onto just a little bit of skepticism in order to protect yourself?

To me, it seems like a good idea to hold onto skepticism - sort of like having a guardrail along the sides of a winding steep road. If they weren't there, you could veer off into dangerous territory. These questions were also triggered by something I read on this forum. I can't even describe what I was reading because it was all too "weirdly estoeric." I was trying to understand what was being described, while wondering if I needed to have this information for some reason. I wanted to remain open but then, I had the strangest reaction. My heart starting beating really fast and I felt sort of panicky. I quickly logged off and actually felt shaky for about 15 minutes afterward. It was obviously a fearful reaction, but I'm not too sure what it was a fearful reaction TO exactly. Maybe I thought I almost fell for this manipulative lie or else I was starting to believe in the words of a real crazy person. (This is internet world after all). But then again, maybe it was all really legitimate. I just don't know.

But somewhere in these questions, and in my reaction to these two events, lies my spiritual fear...


InnerAthlete2010-07-04 19:44:56 +0000 #2
Opening up more doesn't require the abandonment of discrimination.

It merely means you consider the dualistic nature of the world. That considering or discrimination is most effective when the discriminator has a relationship with their central channel, Pilar of Light, heart center, soul, sushumna nadi, and thus their svadharma or purpose for being here.

It is only in the heart center where we find the voice free of agenda - not in the mental or vital.
Nichole2010-07-04 20:06:33 +0000 #3
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I wanted to remain open but then, I had the strangest reaction. My heart starting beating really fast and I felt sort of panicky. I quickly logged off and actually felt shaky for about 15 minutes afterward. It was obviously a fearful reaction, but I'm not too sure what it was a fearful reaction TO exactly.

But somewhere in these questions, and in my reaction to these two events, lies my spiritual fear...

I agree with IA, opening up does not require the abandonment of discrimination. In fact, discrimination and discernment allow us to open up further to ourselves and to others. Saying "No" allows us to say "Yes."

I know this reaction that you described too...very well. In the past, I had always assigned fear to it, but now I know for myself, that it is sometimes something else, even an invitation to stay and to burn. I wanted to share some techniques that I use in my own life and with my clients. It may or may not be useful to you.

I initially stay open to the sensations that first get my attention in my physical body. Where do I feel this in my physical body? Shaking, a racing heart (This is also where I register, along with the throat and right psoas). What is the quality of it? Is it fear? A warning? A invitation to stay and advance? Is there a healthy need to take myself out of the provoking situation or am I OK to stay in and look more closely. If OK, then just hang out and observe--become clear on what you are perceiving with your discernment and discrimination. Take your time, it takes practice to see these sensations for what they are truly are as they represent so many aspects.

I have found it has served me best to only allow teachers (leaders of sorts) and teachings into my life who expose me to myself and who lead me only to the Sadguru, my inner teacher. Everything else is bullsh*t to me and I don't want to waste any of my precious time on it.
Pandara2010-07-04 20:16:41 +0000 #4
Hello Moth,

I read a delightful book years ago called The Boy who saw True. In it there is these wonderful words of the author:

"He asked me if I believed in ghosts.

And I said, yes.

Then he wanted to know if I'd ever seen one, and I said, lots.

Weren't you afraid?

Not when they're nice ghosts, said I,

but I don't like the nasty ones..."

For me personally politicians falls in the nasty ghosts category.

To discern between the dualistic nature of what we see and experience without anger, fear and hatred, that is the sign of someone who has established a connection to the Inner Self and who sees True. Just my POV.
Hubert2010-07-04 20:59:30 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by moth



These questions were also triggered by something I read on this forum. I can't even describe what I was reading because it was all too "weirdly estoeric." I was trying to understand what was being described, while wondering if I needed to have this information for some reason. I wanted to remain open but then, I had the strangest reaction. My heart starting beating really fast and I felt sort of panicky. I quickly logged off and actually felt shaky for about 15 minutes afterward.

If you've stumbled upon one of my ramblings, I assure you, it probably is bullcrap. I often wonder why do they keep me online here.

But you see, one must get through these crazy states, especially if one has issues, like me.

If what you read is not related to me, I would be very interested to know what it was.
Mirjana2010-07-04 20:46:00 +0000 #6
Hi Moth,

would you as a painter agree that before you start developing any figurative or abstract style you need a good base in colours and forms? The same I see the spirituality. It starts here very down to earth. Imagine that we would all of us practice and focus only on the first teachings of yoga. That we would stop hurting each other on gross and more subtle levels, that we wouldn't be so greedy, that we wouldn't lie and steal from each other. Imagine that we would care enough for each other that everyone would have enough for a survival, that we would allow each other to express emotionaly and we would use our power to create beautiful things instead of trying to rule each other. What a huge difference that would be in the world. With only first teaching of yoga! No scepticism is needed for that beacuse you don't need to follow anybody but yourself for that. Not all of us is a big reformator but everyone can find enough strenght to inspire maybe just a very small circle of people in everyday life. Than we could stop desperately trying to protect from each other, human being from human being. How silly is that? On an individual and global level. Than we would maybe also realize that we don't need anyone to lead us beacuse we can lead ourselves. Rather we would have people who serve the world with their organizationl skills to communicate good on this planet.

Also the asana classes begin with the standing postures. Good grounding and strong legs are fundamental. The whole alignment of the body starts with the feet. Just recently in an anatomy class I realized that my grounding is still not strong enough. So back to the basics. I love it

Cheers

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