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What is tantra ?

Hubert2010-07-04 21:54:52 +0000 #1
Is tantra the esoteric teaching of India ? I mean the Vedas, hinduism being exoteric, and tantra being esoteric ?

I had this idea when I learnt that in India tantra is often associated with spells and black magic.
Pandara2010-07-04 22:04:10 +0000 #2
Hi Hubert,

I might be wrong, but this was what I was taught by my teacher. Tantra is neither exoteric or esoteric, it is occult. Not occult in the negative sense that we sometimes attach to it in the west, but occult meaning here "that which is hidden".
Hubert2010-07-04 22:23:22 +0000 #3
I thought esoteric meant the same thing ...

On the usage of word "occult", I was prepared to not associate more with it than it means, as one of Rudolf Steiner's book is called "The occult science".

Usually by occult, people mean some truth hidden by the will of man ... but it is not more hidden than writing is to an analphabet, hidden by the incapacity in understanding of the seeker, and not by others.
Pandara2010-07-04 22:45:27 +0000 #4
Hi Hubert,

I might be wrong, but my understanding has always been that esoteric refers to that which is advanced and specialised and not necessarily hidden, that it is usually difficult to understand or to remember.

Occult for me is that which is hidden or secret and not necessarily difficult to understand or to remember once you have been given the eyes to see and the ears to hear as my teacher always say.

And this is where Tantra falls for me under occult. Yes, there may be an esoteric and exoteric side to it as well, all just veils depending on your undertsanding and where you are on your path.

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