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irhxcbcziuzxs2010-07-05 08:43:41 +0000 #1
Im 23 years old, male.. which makes me a little weary though I

shouldnt be, im under the impression that not many males take yoga.

Anyways, I have horrible posture from sitting at the computer for most

of my life, recently i took up a more active lifestyle and found that

I really cant do too much... I sprained my foot in acting class about

a year ago, which.. i developed tendenitous in and it still hasnt

healed... Ive been going to physical therapy for about half a year and

during my first visit, they noticed pretty much everything back and

down was out of place... Around the same time I started physical

therapy, I got sick and was bed ridden for a week and I have had back

problems similiar to sciatica (doctor says its not, and no one knows

what it is, ) During this time

of sickness my back pain got really bad.. and didnt go away for a long

time, I was also doing a detox during this time... who knows if that

was a part of it...now the pain is still here,

.. I can still do these things, but it causes some

discomfort. My physical therapy which focus's on alignment as well,

has suggested I go see a different physical therapist now that my foot

and back arent any better... but I may take a break from phyiscal

therapy and maybe try some yoga... but im not sure, if you think it

would help. please take the time to write back.

However, I dont want help, I want cure... Im missing so much of my life and what I want to do because of this...

Also, I am very constantly tight in the lower right back...


Hubert2010-07-05 08:47:43 +0000 #2
I walk in the same shoes, although I am older.

Get a mat, and spend a lot of time on it, just lie on your back. I gave up sitting on chairs at home, I sit on the floor on a mat, and lie back for a stretch when I feel it.

Avoid activities what make you focus in front of the screen. Games, movies, work, they are very bad if you get lost in them, because your self awarness of sitting right disappears and the old habits pop in.

If you have to do these activities, try to not be lost in them.

But this alone will not help.

You need a well chosen asana practice, and you will have to stick to it. Try a class, and if it does not work the way you'd like, you should get a personal teacher.

You are still young. You have good chances to achieve good posture, good muscle tone, and mobility, by regular practice.

You probably have tight hamstrings, not good enough abdominal muscle tone, lack of strenght in the back muscles.

About males and yoga ... don't worry about it. You know there is Virabadhrasana I-II-III, what are named after a great warrior ? And there also is Virasana, or hero-pose. Forget MMA and UFC, through yoga will you become a real man. Just try to not hit on the girls in class.
Rashmi2010-07-05 08:53:41 +0000 #3
I have suffered from back ache and spondylolisthesis in 2001.I would advise to take homeopathy and do yoga.At that time i had taken homeopathy only and it has helped. At present i am taking homeopathy medicine from a doctor for toncilitis .it is quite effective.This doctor sends medicine abroad also.I have heard from my colleagues that his medicine for backache is very effective.He is little expensive but if you require and desire so i will forward his e-mailid.He makes his own medicine and charges only for medicine.Further stiffness can be cured by homeopathy as it happens due to spasm or lack of production of natural salts with ageing and homeopathy works on natural salts theory.

You can consult him.
irhxcbcziuzxs2010-07-05 10:03:31 +0000 #4
I refuse to have the pain continue, Im into things like dirtbiking,4 wheeling, rock climbing, white water rafting... a lot of things that are really strenuous, i would probably be in a big world of depression if i ended up having to give up my active life style before it barely began. Its rather worrying at least to me that you are still having back pains even with yoga, fixing me on the no cure thing. Ive also been doing homeopathy for years for many different reasons, no real help from it yet in any subject.

My trucking company will be started soon and I will be spending alot of time in a truck, I also love to travel and spend many hours in cars and vehicles.

I have virtually no ab muslces and im assuming no back muscles either, the yoga teacher im gonna go to had a very damaged back and sciatica on both sides, and yoga has gotten rid of it, so im wondering why many of you still have your back pain with all the corrections and strengthenings of yogo.

I dont want to be avoding things at age 23, and this may sound very negative, and its because it is... id say if i have to id better start giving up on my dreams now.
yogaforbliss2010-07-05 09:09:07 +0000 #5
Dear aspirant,

As Hubert points out, you will need to devote some time to yoga before you start seeing results. Yoga is not an 'Ibuprofen' route where you can expect things to improve after a few weeks of practice. Yes sometimes people do notice major improvement in pain after two weeks of yoga but this is just a 'surface' effect. Even if such immediate alleviation of pain is noticed, it should be taken as a sign to continue and stick to the yoga routine for a longer time. I would suggest to give it at least 6 months.

It is also very important to focus on mind-body techniques of yoga instead of just the 'body' techniques. The mind-body techniques include Shavasana, Yoga Nidra, music therapy, Pranayama (simple ones to start with like Dr. Andrew Weil highly recommends here Breathing: Exercises: www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/ART00521 as also Ujjayi and Kapal Bhati Pranayamas).

You will have to make a multi pronged attack on your problem using many yogic techniques. As Swami Vivekananda said "Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached".

Make a resolution to stick with a longer program of yoga. This will not only help bring outer strength to your mucles and ligaments, it will also build your inner strength and endurance to pain which in turn will break the vicious circle of pain and negative response to pain.

Good luck
irhxcbcziuzxs2010-07-05 09:23:44 +0000 #6
At least with physical therapy, I notice I have more pain when im aligned, and less pain when im out...

When my osteopath said it wasnt sciatica I was relieved, but it seems that stuff with the SI joint can be just as bad.

I start Iyengar yoga on tuesday, and thats if i can make it it... The pain got really bad yesterday and its been shooting pain at me... usually it only hurt when bending over or squating or something.
InnerAthlete2010-07-05 11:03:34 +0000 #7
irhxcbcziuzxs,

That's quite a user name. What was the inspiration for choosing it, may I ask?

I'll just point out a couple of things based on your two posts and the issues you raise. Then you may do with that information as you see fit.

First, hollistic health or remedy is a whole body approach. This differs from alopathic medcine which merely diagnoses and treats (usually with pharmaceuticals or surgery). Hollistic remedy is therefore complete (in that it addresses the entire person) but it also has its own speed and that speed is typically slower as it actually calls upon the body's systems to do the healing (rather than blocking body operations as many meds do).

In order for "cure" one must always look at cause. Until cause is examined and addressed, "cure" is only temporary. It does not last and therefore it is not "cure" but rather band-aid. Our choices are our health. It is fine to lead an active lifestyle as long as one understands the consequences. So your choices of dirt biking, 4-wheeling, rock climbing, and white water rafting all come with consequence. Those consequences are unique for each person so your "results" are not mine - even when doing the same activities. You have also mentioned the trucking issue which involves a lot of sitting. This leads to shortened, lax hip flexors which in turn causes lower back pain and pelvic malalignment.

So a yoga program for you would be countering your lifestyle. It would be mitigating your other choices. It would be staving off some of the by-products of your choices. If you are unwilling to change the causes of your back pain then it is not particularly reasonable to expect "cure". When certain parts of the body are injured or damaged they do not fully recover. For example a sprained ligament often does not come back to 100%. Though I will say a man of 20 has a greater propensity to heal than a man of 45.

Healing the body requires several things. The first thing is rest or calm. Why? becasue a nervous system that is not parasympathetic (calm) can not possibly heal. Healing in the body takes place when the nervous system is in parasympathetic mode. Oddly, all of the activities you mention are sympathetic in nature.

Additionally, nutrition in the body is the fuel for proper healing. Those folks begging health who are unwilling to avoid caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, and refined sugars, not to mention inorganic foods, while eating green leafy vegetables and taking in proper fluids, set themselves up for disappointment. Just as your dirt bike does not run on sugar neither does your body (very well).

Yoga may help you help yourself but it does not DO the work for you and it does not take the unwilling very far at all. Without a committment to make change in one's life, to amend that which has brought the dis-ease, healing is quite an uphill battle. One I am not certain any modality can over come. It all starts with attitude. There is no miricle in yoga, only in you.
yogaforbliss2010-07-05 09:42:24 +0000 #8
Excellent points InnerAthlete. I love the quote "There is no miracle in yoga, only in you."

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